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« on: February 27, 2017, 09:43:35 pm »

This seems like a steal for $200 and the power it supports. Anyone have experience with this clutch?

http://m.uprproducts.com/mustang-king-cobra-clutch-kit.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 10:40:28 am »

I believe Valeo stopped making them a while back.  May not be the same quality as the old King Cobra clutch everyone seemed to love.  My buddy uses what I bet is the old Valeo King Cobra pressure plate and disc behind his 400+RWHP supercharged '93 Cobra with apparently no issues.  Very few passes at the track and mostly just a weekend fun car he beats on with drag radials.

The "Stage II" and listed power rating throws me off a little.  Don't remember a stage two version nor do I remember the King Cobra clutch advertised as supporting 600+ hp. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 12:33:42 pm »

I never used the King Cobra clutch but did use a few of the regular HD kits.

The pedal was nice. It also held up to 7000 rpm shifts and mid 11s in a full weight 98 Cobra. I can't say the same for the transmissions.

If the clutch is still the same, I'd highly recommend it for a street car.

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http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,20009.0.html

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Bottom line, if it was the hot ticket, the fast guys would do it.............they don't

You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 04:49:01 pm »

The "Stage II" and listed power rating throws me off a little.  Don't remember a stage two version nor do I remember the King Cobra clutch advertised as supporting 600+ hp.  
It's UPR, got to expect some shady shit with them.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-7560-a302n/overview/make/ford/year/1989/model/mustang

Not sure what the difference is between these two, besides $50, and a number...
https://www.astroperformance.com/product/king-cobra-10-5-400hp-clutch-kit/https://www.astroperformance.com/product/valeo-king-cobra-10-5-400hp-clutch-kit/
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 06:27:01 pm »

I believe Valeo stopped making them a while back.  May not be the same quality as the old King Cobra clutch everyone seemed to love.  My buddy uses what I bet is the old Valeo King Cobra pressure plate and disc behind his 400+RWHP supercharged '93 Cobra with apparently no issues.  Very few passes at the track and mostly just a weekend fun car he beats on with drag radials.

The "Stage II" and listed power rating throws me off a little.  Don't remember a stage two version nor do I remember the King Cobra clutch advertised as supporting 600+ hp. 

And I can't find any reviews or people talking about using it. Nothing in that price range comes close to being able to support 600hp. Just odd....

I'd rather see clutch's rated for torque anyways. But that's another discussion!
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 07:20:32 pm »

First I've heard of a stage 2. I run a KC kit in the Cougar. I love it. Going on 11yrs of hard street driving and no problems. I'd be tempted to phone Ford Motor Sport and see if they make any comments as UPR refers  to Ford part numbers. 4 Eyed
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 05:26:02 pm »

Saw these descriptions and reminded me of this thread so figured I'd throw it up here.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-7560-A302N
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2017, 09:07:20 pm »

Saw these descriptions and reminded me of this thread so figured I'd throw it up here.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-7560-A302N
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2017, 06:50:01 pm »

I just went with a Spec stage 1. 495 ft/lb should be good for what I need.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2017, 08:05:20 pm »

I just went with a Spec stage 1. 495 ft/lb should be good for what I need.
Ive got one in the car now, and with my car being lighter, and having more gear now it just dead hooks, even with launches off the limter, tried putting 20PSI in the slicks, and front struts up to 9, trying to get a little tire spin. Probably going to just put the king cobra in with new engine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2017, 10:19:41 pm »

Ive got one in the car now, and with my car being lighter, and having more gear now it just dead hooks, even with launches off the limter, tried putting 20PSI in the slicks, and front struts up to 9, trying to get a little tire spin.

Sounds like a 100 shot should about do it. That is, assuming that you can keep up.
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Doing more with less, or something like that.
http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,20009.0.html

Quote from: Monte Smith
Bottom line, if it was the hot ticket, the fast guys would do it.............they don't

You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2017, 11:33:07 pm »

Ole David is getting pretty old!  Spt at PC
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2017, 12:52:40 pm »

Sounds like a 100 shot should about do it. That is, assuming that you can keep up.
HA!!! Not messing with that stuff trying to do it the hard way.

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2017, 02:16:20 pm »

Sounds like a 100 shot should about do it. That is, assuming that you can keep up.
HA!!! Not messing with that stuff trying to do it the hard way.

Smells like............ chicken.
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Doing more with less, or something like that.
http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,20009.0.html

Quote from: Monte Smith
Bottom line, if it was the hot ticket, the fast guys would do it.............they don't

You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2017, 06:29:19 pm »

Smells like............ chicken.
HA!, no, contemplated it a couple times with the LTD, and been asked if I ran it, but that's one more expense, and I'm a cheap ass. Spt at PC

This is what Tony at Astro said when I asked about the king cobra clutch and using it for a car that goes to the track. Was hoping he'd say the cheap one would be OK...  

David,
Good afternoon. If the car will be exerted to anything more than a standard street tire, neither clutch (king cobra is recommended).  A Dual Friction Design Clutch would be recommended.  The King Cobra Clutch Kit options are within $50 of each other.  The main difference is the econo series has a slightly different "hat" than that of the O.E.  The O.E. Design King Cobra works with all 1983-Up Ford Mustang 5.0L Bellhousings. Whereas the Econo has an issue with 1989-90 Ford Mustang 5.0L Bellhousings in that Ford changed the foundry for the T-5 bellhousing during this time.  When they did a protrusion in the aluminum was evident that causes the Econo Series to rub the bellhousing. You can clearance the bellhousing with a dremmel for extra clearance.  But, its one extra step the O.E. doesn't require being needed. Thanks, Tony @ Astro Performance

So I replied asking about slicks, and this is his reply
RAM PowerGrip for mostly Street Driving with some track use.  RAM PowerGrip HD for 50/50 driving.  The RAM PowerGrip HD will “chatter” more than the standard PowerGrip as it features pucked surfaces on both sides of disc.
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1988 GT long term project
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