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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2017, 02:49:38 pm »

King makes a .011 bearing.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2017, 02:58:01 pm »

The housing bore a 3.00 inch windsor is

low side 3.1922
high side is 3.1930

ARP main studs torqued at 110 using arp moly lube
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2017, 03:14:49 pm »

The housing bore a 3.00 inch windsor is

low side 3.1922
high side is 3.1930

ARP main studs torqued at 110 using arp moly lube

I will check that, thanks!!

Ill look into the kings, I need a new set anyways since the delivery man decided to be rough with my clevites and they have a few good marks in them already.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2017, 08:00:04 pm »

Well here it is.
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2017, 06:20:27 am »

Is it safe to assume there is no fixing this?
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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2017, 10:06:48 am »

thats pretty janky. Problem is the crush has been severely diminished on the bearings. There is where you are getting all your bearing clearance.
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2017, 11:44:46 am »

thats pretty janky. Problem is the crush has been severely diminished on the bearings. There is where you are getting all your bearing clearance.

Ya im concerned about the crush now, im gonna scrap this block I only paid $150 for it and new ARP main studs so im not out to much. It was a good learning process though so I cant complain.

Whats everyone's recommendations on head gaskets as well?
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2017, 12:15:38 pm »

You can cut the caps and then line hone to the high side, get the crush back. Did the bearing go in easily in the block and cap?
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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2017, 12:39:00 pm »

You can cut the caps and then line hone to the high side, get the crush back. Did the bearing go in easily in the block and cap?

Yes, they went in pretty easy.

Im going to check the cylinder bore first I think then I will decide what im going to do with it.
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2017, 06:06:23 am »

I checked the cylinder bores and they are all over the board. I think I ended up with 2 holes that would have had acceptable piston to wall clearance. And I noticed too that someone tried to tap the oil galley plugs to NPT and did a horrendous job on that too...

So that being said im going to have one of my virgin blocks machined,  I have a few questions before I do that.
1. Should I line hone the mains to the largest end of spec to gain oil clearance? The one main bore that was 3.1940 was giving me a oil clearance of .0029 so im wondering if I should have them all set at 3.1940?

2. Decking the block, how does one go about accurately measuring for what can be taken off the deck. Obviously I need to keep in mind piston to valve clearance and quench, what else should I be keeping in mind before telling them how much to take off? When I specd the custom cam out through woody I listed the block as being zero deck.

Thank you for any advise guys.
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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2017, 09:40:40 am »

Go the high side 3.1930, I never go over that, the crush is the only thing holding the bearings from spinning. The tang on the bearing is a locator, it doesnt keep the bearing from spinning.

As for the deck height

stroke divide by 2, add the center to center length of the rod, add the piston compression height. Cut the deck to this number

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 4" crank, 6.200 rod, 1.280 compression height piston

2+6.2+1.280 = 9.480. Surface the deck to 9.480 and the piston is at 0 deck.
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2017, 09:41:38 am »

King has .009-.010-.011 bearings, use these to get the bearing clearance instead of going over the high side
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2017, 03:02:42 pm »

Ok, great info woody I appreciate it!!

So with my 3.5" stroke 5.956"rods and 1.769" comp height im coming out to 9.475" for zero deck sound about right?
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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2017, 04:37:50 pm »

yep
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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2017, 10:24:33 pm »

another rod option for the future on a standard 351w crank is to use the 400M length rod and the 302 piston. many locals running roundy rounds are doing this. seems to be the new ticket in the NW.  not sure why but a builder in my area has a few setup like this.
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