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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2016, 10:01:13 pm »

Only if current draw is above their capacity rating in the power supply side. Caused usually, by other circuits added to the EEC power circuit,(such as? or a bad ground condition. I will check into this possible ground issue, I think i'll need  to look at some wiring schematic, so I can see where the grounds are. I'm sure I have enough grounds, however not sure of the wire size and locations I have ordered a book https://www.amazon.com/gp/buy/spc/handlers/display.html?hasWorkingJavascript=1
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2016, 09:19:50 am »

Such as..... an accessory or circuit that needs power when key is ON. To check for grounds, do it following a voltage drop test to the EEC ground at the LH fenderwell.

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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2016, 06:18:41 pm »

Such as..... an accessory or circuit that needs power when key is ON. To check for grounds, do it following a voltage drop test to the EEC ground at the LH fenderwell.


I gotcha!!
I did move my battery from the trunk, back to the engine compartment and straightened up some of the rats nest wiring(not professional by no means and I'm going to redo it soon) and put all the grounds to the -battery terminal as shown in the pic and as I did all the +battery
 
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2016, 07:05:23 pm »

I think it's in Joel's section somewhere, or maybe on eectuning, a good description of the 'ground loop'.  Not the typical usage regarding audio noise and such, but rather the fox ground paths.

Physically, they look like a loop.  I might not have it exact, but goes something like:
battery negative cable/strap to block, back of block strap to body, then body strap back to battery negative.
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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2016, 07:33:08 pm »

Buy it, read it BUT, don't take everything as real or true, For crying out loud, even FMS followed the .99 TPS setting crap.
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Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
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« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2016, 09:55:05 am »

Would anyone happen to have the part number for the Bosch EEC power relay?
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« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2016, 06:23:37 pm »

if anyone is interested in a Borg Warner for the EEC Power Relay...

here ya go
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« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2016, 06:55:33 pm »

SOS (Same Old Shit) man.... make sure rating is 30A and install the pigtail/connector. Wink
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Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
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« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2016, 07:08:41 pm »

SOS (Same Old Shit) man.... make sure rating is 30A and install the pigtail/connector. Wink

gotcha!! and I did get a new pigtale Grin at least the relay is made in INDIA! so I'm going to paint a RED DOT on it
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