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Mr.Blue
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Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 21, 2015, 06:01:28 pm »
Provided by: Rodney Tolleson/1992 LX Coupe
01. Block
Displacement: 302
CR: stock
02. Heads
Brand: FORD
Model: GT-40P
Ported?: No
03. Camshaft (If the camshaft is custom, NOT providing this information is understandable, and NOT expected)
Brand: LUNATI
Grind Number/Model: 51027
Int./Exh. Duration @.050": 221/223
Int./Exh. Lift: 509/509
Lobe Separation Angle: 112
04. Induction
Carbureted/EFI: Fuelie
Intake: EXPLODER (ported upper)
Carb/Injector Size: 24lb.
Throttle Body Size: 75mm
Mass Air Size: 75mm Pro-M
05. Tuner: ford
06. Exhaust
Style: Long tube/MAC
Diameter: 1-3/4
Catted: no
"X" or "H": X
Mufflers: FLOBASTARD 1 chamber 3"
07. Power Adder:
08. Transmission
Manual/Auto: Man-stick
Model: 1989 T5 syncro'd
Plate/Clutch: mongoose
Converter Stall:
09. Gears
Style: Motorsport
Ratio: 4.30
Differential Style: 8.8/spool
10. Rear Suspension Setup: UPR solid upper/lowers/50-50 shocks
11. Front Suspension Setup: D&D k-mem/arms/CO's/Lakewood struts
12. Tires: 26 goodyear FR's/MT 26x10 slicks
13. Car Weight: 2800ish race weight
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Time Slip:
60ft: 1.59
330ft: 4.84
1/8th ET: 7.61
1/8th MPH: 88.5
1/4 ET:
1/4 MPH:
Dyno Data:
FWHP:
FWTQ:
RWHP:
RWTQ:
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COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS:
Oh yeah.............itz gotz a racin carank pulley!
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 21, 2015, 06:24:11 pm »
Found this pile on craigslist 4 long years ago when a guy i know who whores out mustangs like a junk pimp acquired it from a member on here (windsor death)...who had it set-up as a "road racer" and it had sat in his yard for a coupla years....now before we get started I DID NOT HAVE THIS CAR PAINTED lol............anyone that knows me is aware cosmetics arent high on the list, its actually a little to pretty for my taste but what the hell............it had no underhood wiring, front suspension, rear suspension and still had the 4cyl fuel lines.............i loaded up a old rear/arms/spring and complete kmember etc. and loaded it up.......
I then bought a used tube k member kit, had a "built" rear lying around a old junkyard 5.0 out of a mkvii i bought back in '99 some jy P heads, jy efi harness a complete $200 exhaust system, jy intake, broken t5 from my '89 etc. etc...............
i've actually had this turd running for a year but it had a badly busted windshield and i had no motivation to work on it until recently i just decided to get it running and hit the track.............i put 80 street miles on it before i went to make sure nothing would fall off and we were on our way...........
It didnt run half bad for a first time baseline...............passes are in order.......
7.71/.75/.82/.80 and i lost one out the window in the shutdown area......was a .75 lol
High mph was 87.35
Then we bolted on the ported upper............
7.66/.61/.65/.67/.64/.61.......had a 8.21, missed second, car launchs a little crazy and it threw me off lol
High mph was 88.54.............
Heading back up this sat barring weather with the ported lower on it along with 30lb inj, and pro-m 80 maf..............sunday i'll try and double down and throw the bullets on it...........maybe crank a few .50's out of it.........
David has a vid somewhere of one of the passes...............
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 21, 2015, 10:44:59 pm »
How many unproven combo's do you you have? LOL
BTW, the paints not bad. Good luck with it.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 10:18:40 am »
Quote from: Jeff351w on December 21, 2015, 10:44:59 pm
How many unproven combo's do you you have? LOL
BTW, the paints not bad. Good luck with it.
To many
'89 blue/silver gt........ Mr.Blue #008
'88 ssp blue coupe......... blue deuce/douche #002
'92 lx coupe........... super secret #005
'91 hatch AOD daily 7.88@86.............#003
'91 silver hatch AOD 7.68@89 (getting a manual)..........#009
'91 hatch (krusty..under construction)
'88 van..........#006
Super secret also got its name because i "conveniently" forgot to tell my significant other i had purchased it and she found out thru a buddys wife....not amused
I never did a profile on the AOD cars as they are just ho-hum combos with autos that i've had for years and nobody wants to read that crap
Thats basically all the junk i own along with a '85 LTD LX sorta roller lol..........
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 12:51:32 pm »
Almost in the 11's with cheap parts that "don't work", good job.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 02:56:27 pm »
Another impressive Mustang from Rodney.
Sounds like it has a good chance of getting even better with the intake and improving the 60ft.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 03:43:47 pm »
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 04:17:40 pm »
Quote from: thunderjet302 on December 22, 2015, 03:43:47 pm
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....
4.30 gears, one hell of a driver(thats not afraid to grenade everything drivetrain related) will have that effect. Rod's not easy on shit.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 05:07:45 pm »
5500 launch....need to get a 2-step on it and a few other things, this is what low powered turds do...........maybe a kids football in the pass. side
Buddies camera died but he caught a coupla crappy shots with his phone
Thanks guys....just a fun car anyone can reproduce and beat on....i joked with mike and david the "corral" guys would say its a 8.0 combo if i had done one of those "what will it run threads"........
Also those were "real" SSP wheels (lol) that i shot with the bbbblllaaaccckkkk...............welds at the track.........
Found Davids vid.................gotta get my man closer to the action lol...........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54bcuYOQsTU
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 05:16:48 pm »
Yeah maybe a anti roll bar in the rear.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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December 22, 2015, 07:57:49 pm »
just out of shits and giggles I would love for someone from the good air parts of the world to come to some elevation and run. When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are. We see what happens when we head south with limited tuning time and gain 6 to 7 tenths. His car being mostly stock he would lose 1.2 seconds at Bandimere, this being true I'm right there with my tune.
I have a supercharged car and the rule of thumb here is 2# of boost to cover the power robbing charger and 2# to cover the baro loss. thoughts
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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Quote from: wywindsor on December 22, 2015, 07:57:49 pm
When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are.
thoughts
Even at sea level, average cars don't run like Rodney's. His cars have deep gearing, good tuning, and great driving. On top of that, they test and tune a lot.
I watch him make a pass in one of his cars, and I want to walk over and kick my car. His blue coupe makes me especially sick.
If you are basing your expectations off of his, its highly likely that you will be disappointed. They have their act together over there. Or maybe its just the silicate water.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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Rodney's car is the perfect example of not needing cubic dollars, just a little common sense and effort. I helped a coworkers son years ago with his Mustang, the first thing I had him do was 4.10 gears, suspension, and tires. Second thing was a set of cleaned up stock heads(blended valve job/bowl cleanup) and explorer intake. His dad said it no way it would run 13's, well it ran 12.87 with over 100,000 miles on the clock!. Yes it had the normal bolt on's also. I wish more would follow Randy's lead before spending big bucks on aftermarket heads and etc only to be let down. There is more to going fast then adding torque and hp.
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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Quote from: wywindsor on December 22, 2015, 07:57:49 pm
just out of shits and giggles I would love for someone from the good air parts of the world to come to some elevation and run. When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are. We see what happens when we head south with limited tuning time and gain 6 to 7 tenths. His car being mostly stock he would lose 1.2 seconds at Bandimere, this being true I'm right there with my tune.
I have a supercharged car and the rule of thumb here is 2# of boost to cover the power robbing charger and 2# to cover the baro loss. thoughts
with all respect Ray, my thought are why would any one at sea level want to tow their car anywhere it will go slower.
i feel a portion of your pain when my weather station says we are racing at over 6000 ft. the solution is to tow our cars to lower elevations and enjoy. houston and saint louis are both on my bucket list.
cheers, claude
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Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
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Quote from: liljoe07 on December 22, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
Quote from: thunderjet302 on December 22, 2015, 03:43:47 pm
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....
4.30 gears, one hell of a driver(thats not afraid to grenade everything drivetrain related) will have that effect. Rod's not easy on shit.
Gears, suspension, tires, and not being afraid to break the hell out of everything helps
Runs great for some thrown together junk.
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