Head Hierarchy?

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[LiteEmUp]

Canfield 192's 195's ??
 

[juiced coupe]

Canfield 192's 195's ??
 

About equal to a unported TFS High Port, especially considering that they are basically copies of the HP heads.

[289nate]

Canfield 192's 195's ??
 

Stay away from the 192.  They are prone to cracking.  The 195 does not suffer the same problem and was a very good cylinder head for the money.  I've been told they are a little better out of the box than the 192 High Port.  But, the High Port can be opened up more than the Canfield.  I haven't seen much over 330 cfm on the intake port after porting on a Canfield because it gets too thin to take them further.  I've been happy with the set I have.

[289nate]

That's why I asked.  They seem to make considerably more power than the TW of old.

While I'm sure that the new heads are an improvement, I don't know about the way more power thing.

People are getting better at making power, no doubt about it. But people are also making more power with older stuff too.

Many Renegade and Drag Radial cars ran mid/low 8s with the old heads, several years ago. Hell, a member here ran mid 9s N/A with a factory block and crank 306 with a set, and low 9s with a aftermarket block stroker before a engine failure took it out. There is a member on several other forms that ran high 9s with a set of unported 170s on a 408, N/A.

As far as I  know, the old school Renegade TW heads are still the badest stock intake/exhaust port location heads out there. There may be something out there now that is actually better, but those are some tough shoes to fill.

Plus, people are running the 11r 185 head where they used to run the as cast TW 170.

I have a set of those old Renegade TW heads.  They are really getting on my nerve to do a small inch high compression, high rpm, E85 build with them.

[Cobra109]

I can not believe that with all this input from HP ford gurus, that no one has brought up the e6se heads. the ultimate.........

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I can not believe that with all this input from HP ford gurus, that no one has brought up the e6se heads. the ultimate.........

Its funny how some things just line up.

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Meaning:

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[Cobra109]

Im afraid that e6se are not going to line at all.