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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2015, 08:59:18 pm »

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2015, 09:29:02 pm »

As predicted the list(s) are quite lengthy. 
Whilst I am not in the market (is anyone ever out of the market for go fast goodies? ),  this list will, I hope, make it easier for me and others to refer when researching.  I don't believe it will be a solve all solution but maybe it could provide some easy to understand info.

Outlaw Bill, thanks for updating the list. 

Juiced Coupe, I take it the high ports you refer the Z to being a copy of as being TFS? 

CDW6212R, The restrictions of $ and application are ever present eh?

Keep the suggestions and opinions coming chaps.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2015, 09:57:06 pm »

Juiced Coupe, I take it the high ports you refer the Z to being a copy of as being TFS? 

Thats them. They have been around since the late 80s and continue to get better. With its various versions, its likely the most versatile head in the sbf world.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2015, 10:02:43 pm »

Might want to add the 170 TW in there very popular head
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2015, 05:52:42 pm »

Where would the TW 170 slot in al2?
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2015, 07:12:17 pm »

Where would the TW 170 slot in al2?
They are between the AFR 165 and 185, closer to the 185.
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2015, 09:19:05 pm »

Where would the TW 170 slot in al2?
They are between the AFR 165 and 185, closer to the 185.

It's also worth noting that the TWs have more ultimate potential with porting.
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You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2015, 09:55:35 am »

Where would the TW 170 slot in al2?
They are between the AFR 165 and 185, closer to the 185.

It's also worth noting that the TWs have more ultimate potential with porting.


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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2015, 08:24:57 pm »

Where do Kaase's P38's rank in this list?
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2017, 08:57:46 pm »

I'm curious of where the new 11R heads fall in the line up.
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2017, 09:21:21 pm »

I'm curious of where the new 11R heads fall in the line up.

For comparison purposes, I'd figure them roughly the same as the old TWs of similar sizing.
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Bottom line, if it was the hot ticket, the fast guys would do it.............they don't

You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2017, 06:49:09 am »

Curious as to what desired advantage the Edelbrock Victor 2 has over the Victor? 
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2017, 08:43:42 am »

I'm curious of where the new 11R heads fall in the line up.

For comparison purposes, I'd figure them roughly the same as the old TWs of similar sizing.
There certainly seems to be some people making good power in small displacement 8.2 blocks without big cams with them.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2017, 01:12:19 pm »

I'm curious of where the new 11R heads fall in the line up.

For comparison purposes, I'd figure them roughly the same as the old TWs of similar sizing.
There certainly seems to be some people making good power in small displacement 8.2 blocks without big cams with them.

That's why I asked.  They seem to make considerably more power than the TW of old.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2017, 05:52:12 pm »

That's why I asked.  They seem to make considerably more power than the TW of old.

While I'm sure that the new heads are an improvement, I don't know about the way more power thing.

People are getting better at making power, no doubt about it. But people are also making more power with older stuff too.

Many Renegade and Drag Radial cars ran mid/low 8s with the old heads, several years ago. Hell, a member here ran mid 9s N/A with a factory block and crank 306 with a set, and low 9s with a aftermarket block stroker before a engine failure took it out. There is a member on several other forms that ran high 9s with a set of unported 170s on a 408, N/A.

As far as I  know, the old school Renegade TW heads are still the badest stock intake/exhaust port location heads out there. There may be something out there now that is actually better, but those are some tough shoes to fill.
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Quote from: Monte Smith
Bottom line, if it was the hot ticket, the fast guys would do it.............they don't

You might need some Titanium rods and a flow bench!  LMAO on floor

I honestly don't get it.

I'm sweating, my heart is racing, my clutch foot is twichin', and my right arm punched the computer screen doing an involentary 2-3 shift while reading all that. 
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