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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2013, 09:56:24 am »

pump it!
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2013, 11:34:57 am »

I take it you have some kind of toggle inline with the power supply to the pertronix module in the distributor?



Yes, I have an inline toggle switch to the Pertronix module and the ignition coil.
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2013, 07:10:27 pm »

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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2013, 09:14:40 pm »

EFI 
Why would you wanna complicate shit.. lol
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2013, 09:16:05 pm »

I drove to lunch today.  For whatever reason (probably 'cuz it's Monday) I thought mistakenly that my gas pedal assembly was sticking a little bit when I wasn't pressing on it.  So I taped it a tiny bit after I shut off the Merc.  Oops, because that little tap of the gas pedal partially flooded the intake ...

So when I tried starting it a couple of hours later after work it gave my starter another fucking kick back -- and not an easy one, either.

 




So after all of that I changed the ignition timing from 32* to 30* and called it a night.  Hopefully that will be enough to quit that B.S.!
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2013, 09:33:44 pm »

Why would you wanna complicate shit.. lol

  I don't think efi is all that complicated. I learn the hard way SLOW. If I can learn it anyone can. Beside's better control of the engine I can't think of why not efi. 400 plus hp and decent fuel economy from the factory.
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2013, 09:40:30 pm »

I guess the other option would be put a choke on it. but I bet Robert would have trouble sleeping knowing there might be 5hp hiding lol
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2013, 09:44:49 pm »

I drove to lunch today.  For whatever reason (probably 'cuz it's Monday) I thought mistakenly that my gas pedal assembly was sticking a little bit when I wasn't pressing on it.  So I taped it a tiny bit after I shut off the Merc.  Oops, because that little tap of the gas pedal partially flooded the intake ...

So when I tried starting it a couple of hours later after work it gave my starter another fucking kick back -- and not an easy one, either.

 




So after all of that I changed the ignition timing from 32* to 30* and called it a night.  Hopefully that will be enough to quit that B.S.!

Dude why dont you get an ignition box with a start retard and be done with it? Your gonna start ripping teeth off your flexplate.
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2013, 10:05:54 pm »

I drove to lunch today.  For whatever reason (probably 'cuz it's Monday) I thought mistakenly that my gas pedal assembly was sticking a little bit when I wasn't pressing on it.  So I taped it a tiny bit after I shut off the Merc.  Oops, because that little tap of the gas pedal partially flooded the intake ...

So when I tried starting it a couple of hours later after work it gave my starter another fucking kick back -- and not an easy one, either.

 




So after all of that I changed the ignition timing from 32* to 30* and called it a night.  Hopefully that will be enough to quit that B.S.!

Dude why dont you get an ignition box with a start retard and be done with it? Your gonna start ripping teeth off your flexplate.


I am going to see if lowering the timing will do the trick.

If it does do another kick back again I will buy that MSD Digital 6 Plus box and install it in the Merc.
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:54 pm »

Do yourself a favor and stop fucking around.......Ive seen guys rip the starter ears right off the block.....your playing with fire.

Your gonna need to pull about 10degrees.......get the box.
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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2013, 06:58:24 am »

OK, thanks.

I just ordered the MSD Digital 6 Plus from Jeg's.

Until I receive it and have it installed I will keep the timing down to 30* to hopefully ease up the start a little bit.


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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2013, 07:47:57 am »

Unlocking the distributor would sure be cheaper...
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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2013, 09:37:25 am »

Unlocking the distributor would sure be cheaper...


But maybe not in the long run ...

I had a nightmare that the "lightest advance springs" that I had earlier installed on the distributor so that all of it's timing came in early (like 1800 rpms) would one day snap when I was romping on the gas pedal sending the timing thru the roof if one of the weak fragile total advance tabs broke at WOT which could ruin the 408W quickly.

 


So with the timing locked out (when I set it up I locked it in the fully advanced way) I am feeling much safer with the entire assembly.  Plus it is much easier to stab a distributor back in with the timing locked out!

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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2013, 11:07:48 am »

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I had a nightmare that the "lightest advance springs" that I had earlier installed on the distributor so that all of it's timing came in early (like 1800 rpms) would one day snap when I was romping on the gas pedal sending the timing thru the roof if one of the weak fragile total advance tabs broke at WOT which could ruin the 408W quickly.


Exactly NONE of those things will ever happen.  Maybe work on the springs to have advance in by 2500 or so.  The tabs are not weak or fragile.
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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2013, 11:31:57 am »

I had a nightmare

Ahhh... the dream factor... Smiley
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