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« on: August 15, 2012, 05:14:49 pm »

Ok so alot of us here do some tuning of our own. I thought I would start a start to finish tuning method with the help of the fine people. I don't mean to offend anyone just looking to help and learn. My next post will start with how I started and my last post I will try to write a instep sequence tuning method'



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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 05:49:51 pm »

This link is a bit out of date, but it was one of the best explanations on how the EEC tables work I had ever read when I was starting tuning.

http://www.superstang.com/maf.htm
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 07:57:30 pm »

I look forward to reading what you come up with...
Tried this once,but never got around to finishing...
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 09:29:27 pm »

Lookin forward to this too.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 10:00:59 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 11:13:26 pm »

Let's start off with the purchase of Clint Garritys Binary edeitor and EEC analyzer. I purchased these on line and it takes Clint about 24hrs to respond with his blessing to use these downloads.

  Nexts is a moates Quarterhorse and the install of the processor. You will need to pull your eec and take the cover off. The instructions are very clear on what needs to be carefully moved or bent over and which direction to bend the diodes and caps. One thing I will stress is the use of electrical contact cleaner to remove the wax type film off the board. Do not ust carb or brake cleaner. 2 cords come with the qh. One that plugs into the qh to a female serial port. I routed the cord per Moates and then taped the cordthe Qh and the eec with a 3M c130 rubber tape. The other cord is usb to serial that connects to the laptop and the female serial port.

  Next you will need to turn your ignition on and plug in the computer with B.E. on in these steps. See if your computer finds the new hardware. There will be a  blue light if you are communicating with QH. If not you will have to find what comm port the qh and your computer will interface with. I will look at mine later for what port I use.

     For all that read this feel free to correct me when I screw up. My computer language is poor .


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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 10:14:58 am »

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 11:05:51 am »

A couple of short note's If possible set your fuel pressure to 39.5 you can jump out your fuel pump at the dianostic port. You should run a 1 to 1 fuel pressure boost reference  regulator for boosted engines. If your car will run without surging set timing to 10 degree's BTDC.

   I will be using reference's from Greg Banish's Advanced engine management book. and eectuning.org.

   
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 11:34:13 am »

I'm going to start off with my combo which is a 302 with a eaton m112 supercharger making 8 to 10 psi, 42# inj supposidly I'll explain later. Long tube headers, stock cam.



1. inj. settings per manufacture, EEC Analyzer. These may differ. Here is two examples for ford 42# green tops.

eec analyzer                               sct

voltage      offset                        volt             offset
16.00         .5750                     15.93            .8125
15.00         ..5750                    15.00            .8125
14.00          ..6700                   14.00            .9062
13.00          ..7860                   13.00            1.312
12.00          .9190                    12.00            1.1875
11.00          1.0950                  11.00            1.3437
10.00          1.3210                  10.00            1.5937
8.00            2.0980                    8.00            2.3750
6.00            4.9860                    0.00            5.9062
0.00            4.8960                    0.00            5.9062
                                                  0.00            5.9062
                                                  0.00            5.9062

   As you can see sct vs. eecanalyzer  have 2 opinions. I will use eecanalyzer. You can cut and paste these columns to B.E. or hand write and fill them in.

  I will show mine  when I get to my other computer. I did not write these Dechipa did.

 Let me back up on the next post. I jumped ahead .                                                                           
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 11:49:08 am »

Back step, after you load B.E.,EECanalyzer you need to load GUFB strategy and a9l calibration from Clints website. After they are loaded then you can open the strategy and cal by clicking the open folder and selecting your cal and open it. then a strat and open it. both will appear on the lower section In B.E. The cal can be named as you build it for your application. I go by date and car. I would now go to the car and see if you can communicate with the eec.

   I will state this several times as I write this I am no pro at tuning and will take all the help I can get. I started this topic to learn more about tuning with the help from everyone here. I will make mistakes and will correct them as I go. The conclusion is to write a step by step guide at the end of this topic for a general tuning for dummies start guide.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 11:58:46 am »

Here is mine. I did not set this up and I don't believe it makes much difference. Offset only comes into play when your battery is losing voltage.

Click the F in the sq. box. This is functions paramaters, scroll down to Fuel-inj.offset vs. battery voltage. Set your offset in the columns from your inj. company or from EEC analyzer.

Her's mine.

Volts     offset

15.9375   0.5625
15.0000   0.5625
14.0000   0.6563
13.0000   0.7813
12.0000   0.9063
11.0000   1.0938
10.0000   1.3125
8.0000   2.0938
6.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 12:23:39 pm »

Next is Inj. break point.  click F for functions and scroll to Fuel- inj break point. Type in your inj. settings. Mine are like this.

volts      X10 E-515.9375   0.5625
15.0000   0.5625
14.0000   0.6563
13.0000   0.7813
12.0000   0.9063
11.0000   1.0938
10.0000   1.3125
8.0000   2.0938
6.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
0.0000   5.0000
 

  I see in gregs book he sets the inj break point to 2.5e-5. Idon't completly understand this part as there is adjustment that can be made to both break point and offset per B.E. Would someone care to help here?
             
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 12:28:37 pm »

Wrong paste. shit

volts   x10E-5
          lb/rev
15.9998   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000
0.0000   3.0000   These are mine
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2012, 09:10:57 pm »

I hate to do this but this explains alot for the new tuner. I have decided to write my tuning experience on a words then post it her. this will be a start to finish on my project. i had alot of issues with idling and falling idle that I will explain later.

 Here is a link to the moate's ford tuning start up.


   http://support.moates.net/ford-guide-getting-started-with-moates-hardware/

 Hope this helps. If you read over the moates site clint or Adam will help anyone who buys their products with setup. Tuning you are on your own with the help here or eectuning. If you read the page above you will have a good start with only miner tuning left.

         Ray
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 05:45:20 pm »

at the moment Im glad I passed on the moates stuff. maybe just me....
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