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« on: December 11, 2011, 02:41:58 pm »

Just an announcement of the updates and changes to our car over the winter. I will post pictures as work is in progress. This will be an agressive project over the next 60 days to get done in time for SGMP next spring.
1) new powerglide that we can't break is on order from Revmax
2) new 28's sitting in the basement waiting
3) new Dart block is being searched for, looking for the best price ($2100 for Iron Eagle so far)
4) new master cylinder from Aero is here
5) re-wiring of several buttons to be done
6) fuel system for N2O upgrade to be installed
7) new safety belts have to be installed
Cool work to start 12-12-2011

Pictures to follow.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 08:43:48 pm »

Sounds like a cool project that is starting tomorrow?  Yes!!!     
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 04:08:52 pm »

Motor plate and mid-plate are in the house.Engine block is at the machine shop along with the rotating assembly waiting on a cylinder bore, decking check and align bore, and balance. Pistons are coming from Diamond, heads are being checked, valve springs replaced, valves ground, new seals, ect. along with a .004 cut to clean up the surface.  New oil pump and shaft are here, Cometic head gaskets are ordered.

Fuel system upgrade is in progress. A new 10AN main fuel feed line will be added and the old 8AN fuel line will be used to feed the NOS system from a seperate pump. A 3 gal cell for the C116 will be ordered this weekend.

The Aero master cylinder is installed and brake lines re-routed, old proportoning valve gone, line lock re-located, cleaning up under the hood is in progress. Still don't have a camera but I'm going to get one before this project is over I hope.

Super Victor intake will replace the Victor Jr we have been running. Don't tell but we will be adding a 2nd stage, just in case.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 04:21:44 pm »

 
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 08:54:24 pm »

Why 2 whole seperate fuel systems?

Use the -10 feed and 1 big pump to feed everything.

Less wieght....less power draw.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 09:53:07 pm »

Rich, I already have the second pump and we will have to run 116 when we spray and we can run 113 when we run on motor for some of the events we will be in. $9.50/gal verses $16/gal for the fuel. The weight won't be very much I hope, 25#'s at the most. After looking at the heads and the pistons, we were lucky last year. We had just started to have an issue of a lean condition deterorating a couple of pistons and working on the head around the gasket on #1 cylinder. With the increase in CR I don't want to take any chances this year. I'm making sure it won't be a fuel supply issue to spray more and/or run 1/4 mile tracks.

To offset the weight a little we are going solid all the way with a CM trans mount along with the engine plates. My driver has lost 30 lbs too. I'm going to work on the doors and the front clip to shave some more weight off. We also run an alternator to keep the voltage up so the draw is not an issue.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 10:01:12 pm »

We also run an alternator to keep the voltage up so the draw is not an issue.
You're losing hp right there is what Rich is saying.
Not to mention about 10lbs of fuel in the lines.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 09:32:24 pm »

Great news from my machinest today..... the crank is cracked in the  4-8 throw and had just not broken yet. Lucky for me we didn't run the last couple of races or I would need a lot of new parts. Decisions, decisions, decisions. I only want to do this once so our race schedule is going to be put on hold for a while. I only had $2300 put back to re-do the engine for this season with trying to sell a few parts and some scrap copper I accumulated from some jobs I have done.
 
So, for the most bang for the buck; I'm going to order the SHP block and wait until I can get a new rotating assembly and go with a 438ci engine. 4.125 bore x 4.1 stroke with a 6.125 rod and somewhere around a 12.5-1 CR. I'm going to have the heads freshened up now so they will be ready later in the year.  I will also be going with one "big" fuel pump and the -10 fuel line for the motor and spray as was suggested. I have plenty of time for the little things now. Will fill in the gaps as the parts are put in place.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 10:18:18 pm »

Best of luck to you and your team on saving, my friend.

Like you said your block could have been cracked if you hadn't caught this problem -- spraying oil all over the place ...       Shocked
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 04:30:52 pm »

New Dart block ordered today. Will meet with Mike Heintz Friday to nail down the rotating assembly spec's. Phone call I have been waiting on for 5 months came today. Full speed ahead for BDB Motorsports. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 09:35:25 am »

New 'glide arrived today. 1.80's, ringless input shaft, pro-tree brake, deep pan, roller tailshaft, all the good stuff. I'm starting to get excited.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 10:47:24 am »

New 'glide arrived today. 1.80's, ringless input shaft, pro-tree brake, deep pan, roller tailshaft, all the good stuff. I'm starting to get excited.


Good news!

What is the difference between this one and the old one?

Same T/C?
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 10:26:51 pm »

Good evening Robert. The transmissions we were running were basically stock internals with good input shafts and clutches. They had served us well for 3 years. Now, we have reached a level where we were breaking them every trip to the track. If the car hooked, the transmission broke. Not the case, the planateries.  The new convertor we have puts a hell of a load on the drivetrain. We have had a new driveshaft built, billet yoke on the 8.8 rear for a 1350 universal joint just to make it as bullet proof as possible. I told my son the year before last we were at the level (in the 5's) to start breaking parts and then we had the new convertor built and we started breaking parts. Every trip to the track when we put the 28's on!!!

The transmission I got today came from a grudge racer who is pretty well known in this part of the country. It was one his spares, fresh from his transmission builder in Columbia, SC. The transmission has not even had fluid put in it yet.  Money was needed and I had a little in the budget so for $1100 I hope I got a good one. We will still be using the converter from RevMax that we have had when the new motor is put in.   Hoping for around 750hp out of the new motor when we get it together. Depending on the avilability of parts and cash I hope to have it out by the middle of June. Still need to get a camera so I can post some pic's.  later
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 10:01:06 pm »

New Dart block is in the house! Rotating assembly ordered today. 4.125 Diamond pistons with top ring down .something, can't remember, 4.1 stroke crank, 6.2" rods with the best rod bolts, rings and bearings. Going to try and make a stock valve angle head NOS race the end of July. 2800# 1 gun with #82 jet, 275's or tt5 tire. Going to wally-word tomorrow for a camera to document the build and changes to the car. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 10:07:41 pm »

Nice!

Good luck to you for sure!

I am jealous -- 2800# ...   

I would need some fresh drawers if I could wake up tomorrow with the Merc weighing that light and then punch it like I do!!!

 
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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