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« on: October 20, 2011, 03:24:52 pm »

I have a car that has a 289 4BBL in it that I am going to remove, the 289 has a generator on it so it must have some age. Not even really sure it is a 289.

 Motor runs fine. Do people look for these for peroid correct restorations? How do I determine year and size of motor from the outside, are some more valuable than others. anything I should pay attention to that may be of value
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 03:27:02 pm »

If it's a solid flat tappet (OEM), you may want to do a lot of research before selling.

People will pay big money for the whole package.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 03:36:36 pm »

casting number side of the block by the starter
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 03:41:29 pm »

I drive a bus and stay out for 20-30 days, getting ready to leave now. but I will start checking them out and post them next time I go home, probably somewhere around the 5th
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 03:47:29 pm »

Get a casting number on the intake also and count the number of transmission bolts to block...
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 03:52:59 pm »

The earlier 289 heads (C50E) have better exhaust ports than the later 289 heads (C60E).  Difference is, the earlier heads don't have the dog-leg and bung for the thermactor port.  It's just a nice, straight port, with nothing in the way.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 06:00:59 pm »

With a generator, it is probably a 5 bolt block---meaning only 5 bolt holes/bosses are drilled in the back of the block to attach the bellhousing instead of the normal 6 found on later 289's, and all 302's, 351's etc.  

If so, the only ones who really have an interest are restorers of those early cars (unless it is a 289 hipo.)  If it has 6 bolts to attach the bellhousing, then it has more appeal.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 06:25:24 pm »

it might be a 260 and 5bolt block
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 06:41:17 pm »

With a generator, it is probably a 5 bolt block---meaning only 5 bolt holes/bosses are drilled in the back of the block to attach the bellhousing instead of the normal 6 found on later 289's, and all 302's, 351's etc.  

If so, the only ones who really have an interest are restorers of those early cars (unless it is a 289 hipo.)  If it has 6 bolts to attach the bellhousing, then it has more appeal.

Of course, someone with a 221-260 powered car wanting to upgrade to the bigger bore block, or someone with a 5-bolt 289 wanting to upgrade without having to change their bellhousing/transmission over...  might really like to have something like that.

And, yes.  Make sure it's not a 221 or 260. 

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 12:23:58 pm »

Well I have finally had enough time to dig out the car and jack it up to find numbers by the starter. No can do. this motor is in a very tight engine bay and numbers can not be seen without removing home made headers.

But I did count the bolts holding transmission and block together. Two at the top then two down the drivers side. on the passenger side there is one from trans to block and one holding top of starter in. so that makes six.
 
I remove a valver cover and it still has cast FORD heads, the only markings I could find are "6H5" the rockers have TP on one end and FA on the other. The intake has been replaced with a Weiand 8011 (2P18D).

So the intake is a pretty common upgrade and heads do not have the HP stamp or screw in rocker pestals. Can not figure why it has a remote oil cooler on what appears to be a basical stock engine

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 01:19:01 pm »

Is this engine original to the car it is in?  If so what year is it?
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 01:24:24 pm »

The casting number won't really tell you anything useful , HIPO blocks have the same casting numbers as regular 289s , the differences are all internal .
 
The resto guys do look for correct date coded stuff  though .

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 06:48:50 pm »

If it a true hipo motor it will have screw in studs and check the balancer it should be wider then the standard one. Your three digit code is a casting date 1966 Aug 5th. Also Ford put a sequential number on the block. The stamping is on the boss just above the Z-bar mounting stud. It would be three or four digit depending on when it was made
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 07:37:01 pm »

Is this engine original to the car it is in?  If so what year is it?

no it is a transplant into my Bugeye
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