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« on: May 25, 2011, 12:24:27 pm »

 air gap intake 351 cleveland


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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 12:26:45 pm »

351 cleveland intake. can see some of the issues. Some I couldn't get good picture of. Also when flowed lloyd said they needed some work. Not sure what the numbers are but will have this at a later date.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 02:11:40 am »

hello guys still working project. lloyd has finished my intake. I havn't seen it yet but he said he moved port more to top and did some epoxy work in spacer to match. hope to be home soon for awhile. My little job in new mexico has turned into a big job. hoping to be finished in later august. Making some bank$$$$$ but no play time. photos soon and flow numbers.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 09:58:54 am »

Looks good.

It also sounds good that you are making $bank$ -- 'cuz there is always time to play later!  I understand that no bank = no play.
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 01:00:37 pm »

Looks like for a 2bbl head?
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 12:42:18 am »

thats the only way they make them from edelbrock. mine has been modified extensively. Once I get home I will have some photos. of finish product for my application. They say you don't have to do anything but as you can see the missmatches it needs some work. Some of the turn downs to head need some work also. Been working away from home a lot and haven't got caught up on photos. will be almost 3months on this job and killin my engine time.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 09:29:43 am »

Very interesting.
Woody is doing me a 393 with a Air gap on top of TFS heads, I really did not consider the intake needing work.  Wonder, Ponder
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 09:31:01 am »

Very interesting.
Woody is doing me a 393 with a Air gap on top of TFS heads, I really did not consider the intake needing work.  Wonder, Ponder


I forgot how much stroke a 393ci engine has?

May I ask why a Air Gap and not a Super Vic intake?
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 09:38:24 am »

393 is going in a 70 mach1. I want to just cruise. Car will never be raced or see the track. The air gap
seemed to be the best choice. Not sure the Vic would fit under the hood. I told Woody around 500HP max for my needs.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 11:09:07 pm »

If looking at the air gap you can see lots of material that can be removed to achieve your needs. I'm only turning about 5500 max rpm. This is my head guys first 351 cleveland air gap and got to have some fun. new product out and still being learned. catch you guys later. will have some photos soon of my project.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 11:19:37 pm »

I recall a lot of the cleveland guys liking the torker or preferably the Offenhauser? port o sonic.  Torker comes in a 4bbl version.  Thinking of trying that one for my 70 Mach.
Ever consider that one?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 08:55:15 pm »

will be home on the august 5, 6, 7, 8. Everything is done and will be getting assembled by end of month hopefully. My next situation is carb. Talk to pro system and they are thinking 950 annular setup. I was thinking around 800cfm annular for my application. Debating on quick fuel 850 cfm vacume secondary with annulars also. gonna have to be built by quick fuel.  5500lb to 6000lb truck manual tranny main rpm range is 2500 to 3500 rpm for highway running and pullin the mountains steep grades with trailor sometimes. Pro systems I really like and the fact they build their carbs per customer. really like this personal touch. catch you later. photos soon?
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 12:40:46 pm »

More photos would be most excellent!     
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 01:47:31 am »

More photos would be most excellent!     
can't wait to get everything photographed myself. I've seen a few of these engines but not a lot of info on builds found. I will document just about everything possible. Put together many engines but never really took the time to document and always kinda new what to expect. this paticular situation I'm very curious to see the end result. My only problem is my job is killing my play time at this moment. If not familiar with Lloyd creek he's pretty much the creator or wet flow systems with Joe mondello. Once meeting Lloyd I know he's the brains behind this new tech back in the day. pretty sharp dude and a mad scientist kinda guy creating monsters that happen to be engines.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2011, 01:44:42 am »

some new photos of air gap.


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