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« on: August 06, 2010, 07:27:05 pm »

Well after to split 5.0 blocks we are building a new bullet for the 66 mustang coupe that is one of our shop cars. Hoping for some low low 10's out of this N/A we also have a NX stage 6 plate system for it.

66 coupe race wt 2980
Godley C-4 with Transbrake
Transmission speacialties 4000 stall (changing to a 5500 stall after a few months)
9" 4.33 gear spool 35 spline axles
Cal Tracs bars and split mono leaf springs rancho adj shocks
Moroso trick springs in front
8pt cage frame connectors
28X9 M/T slick

Dart SHP 8.2 deck 4.125 bore
Diamond pistons 9.1cc dome
scat 5.4 Hbeam rods
Scat 4340 3.400 stroke crank 28oz
ATI balancer
Total seal rings gapless
Clevelite bearings
Comp billet timing set
Canton front sump pan
Meiling HV pump
Comp solid roller .703 int .703 exh .020 lash 105 lobe center .264 in .272 exh @.050
Comp Hi Tech stainless roller rocker 1.7
Comp stud girdle
Comp solid roller lifters
RHS 215's 2.08 int 1.60 exh Ported and setup by Ceasar from SAM school Flow 335 at .700 and they are 219 cc now 62cc chambers
Super victor intake match ported
Fel Pro MLS head gaskets
Headman 1 3/4 longtube
NX stage 6 plate system
MSD Pro billet distributer
Crane HI6 box
Pro systems 890 cfm carb
 
We should have this thing running by the begining/middle of Sept if all goes well. Still need to order the lifters and push rods we have everything else. This should be a fun car I will keep you guys up dated. This is one of 3 motors we are putting together in the next month the others is a 409C with closed chamber 4V heads and a 383 sbc. I attached a pick of the car when it had the 331 motor in it.

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5.84@117 1.28 60ft N/A
3040lbs race weight
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 05:22:19 pm »

Got all the parts in or ordered just need to wait for new pistons since the shortblock that Mel purchased from FPS had 4 Chevy pistons in it. So we are waiting on 4 new pistons. We already degreed the cam, got pushrod length and PTV complete. Ordered some adjustable guide plates, push rods, and longer rocker studs they should be here by friday. Then waiting on FPS/ROSS for the pistons. When they come in we should be good to go. I still can't believe they sent this crap to him like this. He should have just had me do the whole thing since it ended up costing a little bit more than what we could have done it for. I attached a pic of it and the block he split leading to this build.

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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 10:15:06 pm »

4 chevy pistons?
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 10:46:46 pm »

Yep 4 chevy pistons the RHS chevy heads use the same chamber shape and the Ford head uses chevy guide plates. FPS tried to blame ROSS saying that they made 4 wrong pistons. But those guys put this shit pile together and didn't catch it. The clearances and machine work look ok but they really screwed up the assembly.

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 04:58:40 am »

Any update available??  It should be a bear!
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 05:21:38 pm »

Been waiting on some offset lifters to get some pushrod clearance. Should get it finished this weekend hopefully. That was the last hang up should have it running next week.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 10:23:28 pm »

Any guesstimate on the power level?
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 10:30:02 pm »

Would like to see 600fwhp should be around that number.

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2010, 11:03:27 pm »

What's that engine's compression ratio?
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2010, 11:42:25 pm »

12.8 to 1 we had the heads shaved some.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 08:09:08 pm »

We got this car running this weekend and it sounds pretty nasty should be a good runner. We will find out this weekend should be able to make some passes with it and get idea of what it is going to run. We never did get a chance to change the rear gear yet so this weekend  he will run it with a 3.90 gear. We took it for a 20 mile cruise and all went well except the alternator housing broke in half. We will get that fixed up and replace the shifter cable it has a kink in it and it will be ready to rip down the track.

I will get a video up of it running soon.

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 07:55:23 pm »

Got a track time for this car. This was the first time out with it and he was running Open Comp so we didn't get to run it all out yet but the preliminary best ET was a 6.83 @101 with 1.51 60ft. The timing was 34 degrees he left off the brake at 3500, shifted at 7200 rpm and crossed the line in 2nd gear at 6900 rpm so as you can see he is way off on the gearing and the converter is way to tight. This car will run 6.50's and low 10's for sure with a few more changes and a gear change to 4.56's.

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 08:38:18 pm »

Got a track time for this car. This was the first time out with it and he was running Open Comp so we didn't get to run it all out yet but the preliminary best ET was a 6.83 @101 with 1.51 60ft. The timing was 34 degrees


he left off the brake at 3500, shifted at 7200 rpm and crossed the line in 2nd gear at 6900 rpm so as you can see he is way off on the gearing and the converter is way to tight.


This car will run 6.50's and low 10's for sure with a few more changes and a gear change to 4.56's.

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Would you explain how you can see that your gearing is off and that your T/C is too tight?   Thanx!
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 08:45:59 pm »

The rpm at the fininsh tells you it has about 3-4% converter slippage and the fact it was still in second gear.

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 09:34:31 pm »

The rpm at the fininsh tells you it has about 3-4% converter slippage and the fact it was still in second gear.

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OK.   Thanx!


You said about going to 4.56 rear gear.

I'm guessing that you have one lower (numerically) than a 4.56.

So going higher (numerically) will "tighten" that T/C up some more.


Are you going to have that T/C loosened some?
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The Merc started here = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,27178.0.html  Now = http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,34648.0.html

Thanks to Jim "Woody" and Nicole Woods @ FordStrokers 408W, Westminster Performance Transmission (W.P.T.) transmissions, TCS Performance converters, Broader Performance valvebodies and last but not least a BIG thanks (always) to my friends here and abroad in the World!
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