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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2007, 09:58:28 pm »

Okay, not trying to rattle any cages here;  instead of going to Pep Boys and spending $200 on a alternator and converting the wiring , couldn't you just spend $200 for a P/A alternator that comes with an adapter kit?
Yup....that is another alternative....and Pep Boys also sells them....
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2007, 10:05:03 am »

Does anyone have a "how-to" for taking a 3G alternator apart? I'm trying to take mine apart to send off to powdercoating, but the middle part with the rectifier (I think its called) will not come off the front housing. It moved, but it seems like its binding up. I dont want to pry any harder then I have been, or else I'll end up having to buy a new one. Whistling
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2007, 10:39:37 am »

Here you go......


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He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2007, 11:18:22 am »

Is the rectifier and stator one piece? If so, how do I get that out, special tools/procedure?
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 12:01:10 pm »

Is the rectifier and stator one piece? If so, how do I get that out, special tools/procedure?

Upon further investigation, it seems as if I need to de-solder the leads from the stator to the rectifier
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2007, 12:54:04 pm »

Is the rectifier and stator one piece? If so, how do I get that out, special tools/procedure?

Upon further investigation, it seems as if I need to de-solder the leads from the stator to the rectifier
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Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 01:07:47 pm »

Is the rectifier and stator one piece? If so, how do I get that out, special tools/procedure?

Upon further investigation, it seems as if I need to de-solder the leads from the stator to the rectifier


well I called an alternator shop and asked. I need to separate the stator from the housing since its more then likely corroded. It should just slide out
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2007, 11:04:20 am »

Good morning guys,

I'm wanting to upgrade my stock altenator to a 3g. I read the post that Mighty Mouse posted and it  seems easy enough. My question is about the wiring...It seems that most people believe the 10 gauge wire is not adequate for the 130 amps of the 3g and say you most run a 4 gauge wire with a 150 amp mega-fuze from the altenator post to the battery or solenoid. What are your thoughts?

What gauge wiring/fuze setup was used on the 94-95 mustangs with this altenator?

Please all who have converted to the 3g let me know how you did it and if you had any problems.  I want to upgrade but I don't want to burn my rig up. Thanks Steve
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2007, 08:55:12 am »

I guess I posted this in the wrong section....   
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2007, 09:35:45 am »

Patience my friend........

Wire size used in the SN95s is 4GA, simply follow the gauge wire capacities.....10GA = 55 max. Amps for chassis wiring.....4GA = 135 A....FYI...most cable-megafuse kits for a conversion use a 2GA wire.....for the 130+ alternators.
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The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2007, 03:45:17 pm »

Thanks for your reply Joel.

I seen another writeup that used a 4 GA wire from the altenator and 2 pieces of 12 GA fuze wire at the solenoid. I'm not sure which is the best way to procede.

When using the 4GA wire what do you do with the original power wires?

I thought about following the article as to cut the 2 black/orange wires at the union and add the 10GA with ring and then attach it along with the 4GA.

Did the 94-95 use any type of inline fuze setup?  Thanx!   Steve
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2007, 04:40:34 pm »

You bypass them, you don't use them anymore. The OEM SN95 ends up in 2 fuse link ends connected to the power distribution box.....in your case, or any other 3G upgrade, those fuse links will be replaced by the use of the mega fuse, or something like......



... one end to the alternator, mega fuse in between and the other end at the battery or starter solenoid  distribution post......and you're done...LUK
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The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
Nothing sways the stupid more than arguments they can't understand - Cardinal de Retz
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2007, 05:16:58 pm »

Thanks Joel.....
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2008, 06:23:25 pm »

I have a buddy installing a 3G on a 89 fox and is having problems.He took the alt to get tested and they say its fine.I have a feeling it is the regulator.He wired it up according to the article.He has 12v on the LG/R,BK/O and Y/W.Do they go thru the regulator when they test them?Thanks
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2008, 08:22:33 pm »

Yes they do, but you need to specify them to test it 2-3 times in a row, they might pass when cold, but as soon as the circuits inside heat up, they could fail..... what is the problem?
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Quote from: Joel5.0
The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
Nothing sways the stupid more than arguments they can't understand - Cardinal de Retz
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