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mighty mouse
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« on: November 19, 2006, 09:49:07 am »

COMBO INFORMATION
Provided by: Mighty Mouse

01. Block
  • Displacement: 357 cid - Long Rod
  • CR: 10.25:1
02. Heads
  • Brand: Canfield
  • Model: 195
  • Ported?: NO
03. Camshaft (If the camshaft is custom, NOT providing this information is understandable, and expected)
  • Brand: Camshaft Innovations - Jay Allen
  • Grind Number/Model:
  • Int./Exh. Duration @.050": 230ish
  • Int./Exh. Lift: .600ish" @1.6 ratio
  • Lobe Separation Angle:  -
04. Induction
  • Carbureted/EFI: EFI
  • Intake: Edelbrock Victor 5.8
  • Carb/Injector Size: 30lb Injector
  • Throttle Body Size: 75mm
05. Tuner: Stock 302/A9L Tune - 6200 rev limit
06. Exhaust
  • Style: MAC 1 3/4" Long Tubes
  • Diameter: 2 1/2"
  • Catted: no
  • "X" or "H": H pipe
  • Mufflers: Flowmaster 3 chamber; full tailpipes
07. Power Adder: NO
08. Transmission
  • Manual/Auto: Manual
  • Model: Tremec 10 spline TKO
  • Plate/Clutch: stock as near as I can tell
  • Converter Stall: my right foot
09. Gears
  • Style: 8.8"
  • Ratio: 3.73
  • Differential Style: Powertrax
10. Rear Suspension Setup: X2C Upper and Lower Control Arms - FMS B springs
11. Front Suspension Setup : FMS B springs
12. Tires: 245/45/17 - stock Goodyear Gatorbacks
13. Car Weight: 3680 lbs. w/ driver


Time Slip:
  • 60ft.: 2.059
  • 330ft: 5.031
  • 1/8th ET: 7.034
  • 1/8th MPH: 96.36
  • 1000: 9.773
  • 1/4 ET: 12.085
  • 1/4 MPH: 118.45mph
Dyno Data:
  • FWHP:
  • FWTQ:
  • RWHP:
  • RWTQ:

COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS:

The car had a ton of clutch issues and I never got passed them on the only day I raced the car - the above is the best run - and even then the car was put in neutral and coasted from around 1000 foot to finish.

It now sports a twEECer RT, 90mm TB and an upgraded clutch - when I run it again this spring I will update... Thanx!


« Last Edit: January 04, 2007, 12:32:01 pm by mighty mouse » Logged

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9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 05:18:43 pm »

Mighty mouse not doubting you but are you sure the 1/8 mile mph isnt 98 instead of 88 because your time slip dont add up base on the times and mph through the hole 1/4 .Just now looking at badbirds timeslip he whent 7.5 at 95 in the 1/8 and his 60ft was 1.7.With tire spin your mph should higher at the 1/8.And if you picked up 30mph after the 1/8 your time would 11.6 based on the math forumlas. 
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Just a POS engine I built on my garage floor with a 300 shot running 5.3x with a 1.159 60ft at 2800lbs in the 1/8 but what do I know LOL!
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 07:04:09 pm »

Experiment - you have a good eye - but I was in the middle of adding my time slip info when I got called away. . . most of the numbers on the above time slip are from 68cat's time slip that I cut and pasted. . . my time slip is still in the garage, a few of the numbers were from memory - I will update tonight (if time allows) - then I will modify this post. . .!

With tire spin your mph should higher at the 1/8.And if you picked up 30mph after the 1/8 your time would 11.6 based on the math forumlas. 

I actually had to shut the car down around the 1000 foot mark because the clutch was slipping so bad. . . so my time slip is really screwed up!
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Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2006, 09:19:37 pm »

Hey no problem MM I know what you mean when your in the middle of something and you get callled away looking forward to seeng the numbers.  
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Just a POS engine I built on my garage floor with a 300 shot running 5.3x with a 1.159 60ft at 2800lbs in the 1/8 but what do I know LOL!
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2006, 09:33:18 pm »

your setup is similar to mine, but with a 357. your 60' time is a direct result of why your not running mid 11s.

nice times/mph though  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2006, 09:55:33 pm »

I bet that thing has high 10's to low 11's left in it lol.  It had no clutch to speak of, and was stuck on the stock rev limiter, plus it wasn't tuned whatsoever.  He's replacing the clutch, and now has a PMS tuner.  Bet next time he has it to the track it's flat 11's, then high 10's...with the requisite traction of course!

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 02:14:17 pm »

I bet that thing has high 10's to low 11's left in it lol.  It had no clutch to speak of, and was stuck on the stock rev limiter, plus it wasn't tuned whatsoever.  He's replacing the clutch, and now has a PMS tuner.  Bet next time he has it to the track it's flat 11's, then high 10's...with the requisite traction of course!

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TIME SLIP UPDATED

Thanks for the positive outlook Chris. . . but with my car weighing as much as it does (and I like all the creature comforts and handling they provide) I really dont see the car any where near bottom 11's without the aid of N20 - which is why I recently purchased a kit  Grin

Whether I ever spray it or not. . . 

When I ordered my cam from Jay I told him I wanted a legit 12 sec car with like stock drivability and decent mileage. . . I would say he exceeded my expectations!

My goal N/A is mid 11's . . .   Good Luck! to me this spring!
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Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 02:36:13 pm »

Expect mid 11's?.....Unbelievable!... Good Luck!...to you? ....  .......it's already there...suspension, traction and tuning.....BAM!....IMHO.....
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2006, 09:22:11 pm »

Doin some combo changes here. . .

I am selling the long tubes/H-pipe for shorties (CC 1 3/4 Mac from Ron) so I can run the Mcleod SFI bellhousing.

I also picked up a clutch today - Zoom Kevlar HP-48-1 - got that for just a tick under $220.00 so I could not pass it up!  Pretty cool lookin' clutch!

If I can get it together before the snow flies (ie salted roads) I will see how it does!
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2006, 05:34:07 pm »

PIcs of the new clutch


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Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2006, 06:33:37 pm »

You will love that clutch, I do. I have run that same one in my old 10 second combo, my 95 street car, and a bunch of customer cars with no complaints.

I paid too much for them though, I get raped often. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 07:13:39 pm »

How do you like that Powertrax differential? I'm looking to change mine and get some 31 splines before the spring.................


 
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2007, 08:00:06 pm »

I love it - at first it was a little notchy for my wife's taste. . . but it has since broke in and you cant really hear it unless you are doing like 3mph in a parking lot while turning sharpley. . .
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1986 Mustang GT Convertible
Suspension and Differential by Team Z Motorsports
9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 08:31:08 pm »

who sells them, are they a lot cheaper than an eaton or auburn................



 
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 08:31:59 pm »

I got mine from the Car Shop in Moiline, Illinois (www.carshopinc.com)- but Summit sells them and you can also buy direct from them.
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1986 Mustang GT Convertible
Suspension and Differential by Team Z Motorsports
9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

I'd rather be a fool who is loyal to his friends than a POS that jumps ship to save face. We were wrong in the end, but nobody can ever call us disloyal. I can live with that.
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