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liljoe07
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2009, 07:14:28 pm »

not to sidetrack..but how come the 1.7's on the intake side and 1.6's on the intake?



carry on..

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630 intake
613 exhaust
is closer

and because Joel tied my hands, I worked within the confines.

My Bad..... you can use the GT40 heads if you want........ Hides Behind Sofa..... 




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That was unexpected Joel (then again maybe it wasnt)...
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 10:38:42 pm »

331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore... set.

Early Mexican Block

Internal Balance

10.5 CR

CHI 185cc heads

Matching CHI Intake

Dale Cubic carb

Lunati 63032 273/279 adv. 243/249 @.050 .616/.624 .016 lash 110 LSA, 106 ICL

1-3/4 headers

Manual or automatic transmission?.... Automatic

4.10 gear

Never, ever thought of a 331 combo, so i am just taking a Wild Ass Guess.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 08:23:40 am »

331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore... set.
Stock HR or early non-HR/mexican block?... your choice
28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... your choice
100% N/A setup.... set
EFI or carb?.... your choice.
Manual or automatic transmission?.... your choice
Aftermarket, non-Ford stock heads?....... yup. No GT40, GT40P, 289 or 351w heads.....pleeeeeaaaase.
OTS cam limited....... solid FT, solid roller ot HR tappet limited, no custom cam alternative, OTS part numbers please.
Daily driver, RPM limitation = none, emissions compliance = none.
Torque/HP requirements?... who cares!.... a 11.5 ET performer, full weight, with A/C in the 1320'

For various, NUMEROUS reasons, I would NEVER do this.

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I noticede no one asked this, so .... Why the 351 F/O?

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 10:39:40 am »

Before I start, let me set some shit clear. As you may have noticed, the no Bullshit Flag rule applies here, the politically correct crap?.... you know were to post it. The rod to stroke, PtV, cylinder side loading, higher revs, more durability crap are still (as it has always' been) in effect. Nevertheless,  lets make or try to configure a setup against those common sense rules. Rules to abide to:

331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore... set.
Stock HR or early non-HR/mexican block?... your choice
28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... your choice
100% N/A setup.... set
EFI or carb?.... your choice.
Manual or automatic transmission?.... your choice
Aftermarket, non-Ford stock heads?....... yup. No GT40, GT40P, 289 or 351w heads.....pleeeeeaaaase.
OTS cam limited....... solid FT, solid roller ot HR tappet limited, no custom cam alternative, OTS part numbers please.
Daily driver, RPM limitation = none, emissions compliance = none.
Torque/HP requirements?... who cares!.... a 11.5 ET performer, full weight, with A/C in the 1320'

Commence firing......... I'm Waiting!....... now!

I am thinking GRASSROOTS here (ie BUDGET, knowledge and time constraints)


331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore... set.

Stock HR or early non-HR/mexican block?... 65-79 Ford 289/302 block

28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... 28oz (unless it could go internal w/o mallory)

100% N/A setup.... shit.

EFI or carb?.... 800 4150 Holley DP

Manual or automatic transmission?.... TKO 600

Aftermarket, non-Ford stock heads?....... Twisted Wedge 190

OTS cam limited....... Hydro Roller #35-522-8 Grind Number XE282HR-12          
232/240 @ .050    .565"/.574" Lift   112 LS



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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 08:56:59 am »

I'll give it a shot, this is with my shoestring budget in mind

331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore... set.
Stock HR or early non-HR/mexican block?... Mexican all the way baby!
28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... 28 oz
100% N/A setup.... set
EFI or carb?....  750 dp
Manual or automatic transmission?.... auto
Aftermarket, non-Ford stock heads?....... RHS 200 iron
OTS cam limited....... Howards Max effort mech roller 221133 (.640" , Adv. in. 300 ex. 310/ @.050"  in. 256 ex. 268)

amirite?
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2010, 08:44:02 pm »

Why not...

Early block
28 oz.
Canfield 195's - 58cc chambers
Vic Jr.
BG Mighty Demon 850 annular
Lunati 510B5LUN solid roller (.668/.668; 257*/265*; 109 LCA)
TKO 600




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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2010, 10:10:50 am »

Actually, 54cc chambers, lol!  Must have been too late last night when I did my math.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 09:52:31 am »

Here goes my thoughts

mexican block
internally balanced
TFS high port heads
Super vic
Prosystems 850dp
dry sump
tuned sequential headers
ultradyne cam 5060718  275/285 307/318 685/650 106 .025/.025 
face plated TKO
rev it to the moon until she pops
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2011, 08:05:21 pm »

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28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... 28oz (unless it could go internal w/o mallory)

Does anybody run an internal balance crank such as the Eagle 3.25 stroker?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ESP-430232505400/

Mainly just looking for feedback on quality.  And, cost-wise, it seems like a good alternative to having an external balance crank converted.

Thoughts?
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2012, 06:02:00 pm »

331 stroker: 3.25" stroke x 4.030" bore  Crower ultralight reciprocating assembly w custom pistons .005 in the hole flat top with 2 valve reliefs

Stock HR or early non-HR/mexican block? The best HR block I can get my hands on... sonic checked and inspected etc....

28 oz. external or internal balance setup?... 28oz internal

100% N/A setup.... Would prefer a fogger for the strip stuff but N/A it is.

EFI or carb? Edelbrock victor jr intake machined for fuel injectors and a 1000 cfm throttle body with digital fuel injection controls.

Manual or automatic transmission?.... TKO 600

Aftermarket, non-Ford stock heads?....... World Products Windsor sr's with CNC'd and polished chambers to as close to 67CC's as I can manage. Ported of course.

OTS cam limited....... crower 22402 INT/EXH - Dur @ .050 Lift: 249/254 RR: 1.73/1.73 Gross Lift: .642/.645 LSA: 108



Didn't realize how ignorant I was until I started reading the myths section..... I am learning a Lot on here.... keep teaching, I'm taking notes
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2012, 01:02:19 pm »

early block with conversion to hydraulic
28 oz
EFI, vic jr, ported...with megasquirt
Manual, Liberty Geared T5
Man O War 18 degree 200CC heads with the combustion chamber brought down to 58CC ported polished and bowl blend
Howards Cam, 247/247, 300/300 @.603/.603 with 1.6RR on 110LSA
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2013, 12:58:37 am »

all forged bottom end  light I beams mahle  flattop pistons
early block -.004 deck  .039 mls 4.06 head gasket
28oz internal
all motor i.e n/a
vic jr extrude honed intake
demon 850dp
c4 auto w/ 4500 stall
brodix kc 210 17 degree heads milled to 56cc  port match to intake
comp solid roller 35-780-9  268/275 @.050  690/670
1 7/8 long tube headers

it's just hypothetical so why not  4 Eyed
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 01:05:30 pm »

wow so. some neat ides, (74 bronco) your dream 4x4 engine???? have to do some math and see what would work in a daily driver ranchero that would be towing and racing
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 02:16:45 pm »

This thread has been revived, so I'll ask it here.

Joel, why does no one do the math on a 3.25" stroke(4.030" bore), and list the correct displacement? It is not 331, just like a 351W or 351C is not 351 cubic inches. Those are 352 engines, and always have been, but the name is fine for those 351's.



Who did the bad math and named the 332 a 331? Disgust
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2013, 02:47:07 pm »

wow so. some neat ides, (74 bronco) your dream 4x4 engine???? have to do some math and see what would work in a daily driver ranchero that would be towing and racing
   

lol no but simalar  I WILL have more CI  doing a 408 remeber but the parts are very close to the same
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