whats the fastest you ever went for cheapest cleveland build?

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[nitrostang]

whats the fastest you have gone for the cheapest cleveland build? whats the single most biggest gain inperformance you ever got from your cleveland 2 or 4 bbl?

Mike S

[matt0matic]

 

 

[Is1BadFord]

whats the fastest you have gone for the cheapest cleveland build? whats the single most biggest gain inperformance you ever got from your cleveland 2 or 4 bbl?

Mike S

I don't know all the specifics...but I do know that wildcobrar has one of the most homegrown setups out there (not to say 'rigged'...it's well executed).  He's been running it 6 years if I recall, religiously, in the 10's.  From all counts he's got low 10's in it, just needs to switch a few things on the car.  This is with closed chamber 2v heads, sft, proform main bodied 750dp, and a funnelweb intake.

I'm sure he'll chime in here if he sees it.

Cris 

[wildcobrar]

Hmmm,  I am going to have to go back through my build and figure out what I spent.  I do know I never broke the bank on the engine.  But the rest of the drive line was just as much if not more than the engine.  Using any engine making that kind of acceleration would still need the same drive line to run hard though. 

Let me go back through my build and I will work out the"engine" cost vs. the ET of the car for you guys to see.

Joe 

[wildcobrar]

whats the fastest you have gone for the cheapest cleveland build? whats the single most biggest gain inperformance you ever got from your cleveland 2 or 4 bbl?

Mike S

Double post, but here you go Mike.

KB 148 Hyperutectic pistons with 13 cc dish($205.00 @ Summit)
Speed Pro file fit plasma rings($95.00 @ Summit)
ARP Rod bolts($40.00 @ Summit)
Moroso oil restrictor kit($10.00 @ Summit)
Fel Pro Gasket set($60.00 @ Summit)
Stock rods resized, stock crank turned .030 mains and .020 rods with block @.060 over bore and tanked($300.00 local shop) Block did not have to be decked as the pistons came in at .005 below deck.
Sonic check block($160.00 local shop)
Milodon head studs($60.00 @Summit)
Comp flat solid cam($148.00 @ Summit)
Melling edge orfice lifters($80.00 @ Summit)
Comp 3/8 .080 wall push rods($135.00 @ Summit)
Engine balancing was ($250.00 @ local shop)
Melling hi volume oil pump and ARP pump shaft($60.00 for both @ Summit)
Ford Racing 9 index Timing chain ($55.00 @ Summit)
Block is a D2 4 bolt block.
Aussie Heads that were hand ported, machined for studs and guide plates with Ferrea mid grade valves, resurfaced, valve job, guide job and oven baked, and chambers rolled back. Comp steel 10 degree locks and retainers with Ford Racing springs($80.00 for springs 130 lbs seat/450 lbs open) Heads were ($1600.00 assembled and I supplied the springs.
Comp stock ratio Aluminum roller rockers ($225.00 from head porter)
Comp 3/8 raised guide plates($40.00 ish @ Summit)
Clevitte 77 bearings for rod and mains($85.00 @ Summit)
Canton Fox chassis 7 quart oil pan, windage tray, pick up, and dip stick tube ($320.00 from Total performance)
Weiand  Aluminum water pump($80.00 @ Summit with home made water restrictor in place of thermostat with 9/16 hole because 5/8 ran far too cold)
Parker Racing Funnel Web 2V intake($450.00 from Terry Parker)
Headman Husslers 1 7/8 primary with 3 inch collector($447.00 @Summit)
750 HOM carb done to 850 by AED ($500.00 from Holcomb Motorsports)
Assembly by owner($free)

TOTAL  $5485.00

Best time to date is 10.74 @128 in a 3250 lb car.  It is 9.8 to 1 compression and runs on pump gas.  Prices are from 6 years ago and this engine has been low maintenance and still runs great today.
Launch RPM with a stick is 6000 RPM and shifted @7000 RPM more times than the doors swing open at a whore house.

I feel it is a reasonable build considering the intake, carb, and headers set me back $1500.00



Joe

[jtmustang]

thats setup seems to work out real good for you......


..also that is one detailed list u gave there...sure your not forgetting anything....

[Is1BadFord]

thats setup seems to work out real good for you......


..also that is one detailed list u gave there...sure your not forgetting anything....

He forgot to list the brains and ability to put it together lol.  In the end...that's more important than all those parts combined...and more valuable too.

Said it before, and I'll say it again...a determined builder with some skill, can take another man's cast off parts, and beat him with them =D.

Cris 

[nitrostang]

So you ran Aussie heads hand ported? the best flow #'s ive scence are around 250-260 on the intake and an easy 200-225 on exhaust. For a naturally aspirated small block 377 and under i would say a better choice than 4v heads depending on weight, stall-stick and gear. Clay smith cams told me once about swapping a set of ported 2v aussie heads from 4v"s in a sand dragster and going from the back of the pack to the front with a head change.
what solid cam did you run? overlap?

Mike S

[Is1BadFord]

So you ran Aussie heads hand ported? the best flow #'s ive scence are around 250-260 on the intake and an easy 200-225 on exhaust. For a naturally aspirated small block 377 and under i would say a better choice than 4v heads depending on weight, stall-stick and gear. Clay smith cams told me once about swapping a set of ported 2v aussie heads from 4v"s in a sand dragster and going from the back of the pack to the front with a head change.what solid cam did you run? overlap?

Mike S

Wow, nothing like swapping the heads to make the cam work!!

He's still running those 2v heads (not right now...winter sucks in Canada lol).  He believes he'll go a good bit faster if he ever swaps out for one of the 4v sets he has. 

Speaking of, Joe...call me tomorrow when you get a chance.  I've got a smokin' deal for you on a freshly machined 1971 4v engine complete with heads.  I'll let you know more on the phone.

Cris 

[82stang]

thats setup seems to work out real good for you......


..also that is one detailed list u gave there...sure your not forgetting anything....

If your implying nitrous or a power adder............no

[yllwfstbck]

$2300 stock block .30,crank,4vd0a heads with studs,eagle h beam rod,ross piston,cam motion cam,funnel web intake,950 proform carb.it went 10.41 at 129.its been togather for about 6 to 7 years and finally cracked the head, so a new et of chi 225 is on the way.we will see if it picks up at all

[78 rancho]

opening a old post had to chime in,  cheapest started out 140 for a 72 torino GS with 2v Cleveland and c4 273 open.
50 dollars for a set of aussie closed chambered heads
200 in rebuild of heads
135 for engine rebuild kit
100 cam and lifters  270 comp
75 for street dominator intake and 750 carb - ebay
125 for hole shot convertor
free lock right locker setup --won at a 4x4 poker run
150 for the msd 6 and duraspark adapter wires
3,89 gears - ebay 75.00
only ran 13.5 @100 but did do 1.8 60 ft
car weighed 3965 with me in it  
total less than 3000 for a fair bracket car nothing like ebay for a CHEAP build
4 first place trophies
2 from nastalga days at local track
2 runner up trophies
got 100% of my money back at the 2000 nastalga race when I beat up on a guy and his son  14 second cars. they had big money in their mustangs beautiful , they wanted the engine for a new project they were working on.