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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2009, 11:02:24 am »

12:1 is about the NA limit for the summer E85

E85 is less detonation-prone than Unleaded 91 Octane?
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2009, 11:09:39 am »

well for one i know the 289 has a shorter cylinder skirt as they had a shorter stroke than a 302 so i dont think u want to be shoving a longer stroke than a 289 in a 289 block it would seem to me....

Have you measured the difference?  Yes it has a shorter stroke.  Are you saying that automatically means the skirt was shorter?  This is actually a very hotly debated topic with the 289 block.  The vast majority I've heard from who've measured the difference found none including a good friend of mine.  Some have measure and found the skirt to be a little shorter.  My guess is that possibly the very early 5 bolt bell 289's might have had a shorter skirt.  But, most 289 blocks are the same as a 302 in the skirt.
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2009, 11:13:50 am »

If memory serves the 260 had a shorter skirt, the 289 blocks were a different casting.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2009, 11:14:53 am »

12:1 is about the NA limit for the summer E85

E85 is less detonation-prone than Unleaded 91 Octane?

Depending on the blend (summer, winter) its as high as 112 octane.  Its alcohol, so it is way less detonation prone.
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Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2009, 11:22:06 am »

I'm highly considering setting up my new fuel system to run on E85.
I need to talk to Glenn first and get his thoughts............
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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2009, 12:55:51 pm »

I am now leaning heavily to the following:

Boss or Dart Block 302
Forged pistons
forged rods
treated 2m crank
all studded up

TFS/TEA 205cnc heads
Super Vic intake
Blow through carb
CI solid roller cam

20+ psi intercooled turbo

That should give me whip lash...
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1986 Mustang GT Convertible
Suspension and Differential by Team Z Motorsports
9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2009, 02:30:26 pm »

I am now leaning heavily to the following:

Boss or Dart Block 302
Forged pistons
forged rods
treated 2m crank
all studded up

TFS/TEA 205cnc heads
Super Vic intake
Blow through carb
CI solid roller cam

20+ psi intercooled turbo

That should give me whip lash...


thats going to be sick. Can't wait
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2009, 12:18:48 am »

I am now leaning heavily to the following:

Boss or Dart Block 302
Forged pistons
forged rods
treated 2m crank
all studded up

TFS/TEA 205cnc heads
Super Vic intake
Blow through carb
CI solid roller cam

20+ psi intercooled turbo

That should give me whip lash...


 



um yeah that should indeed give u a slight whiplash and to sa ythe least hual some balls...

that um..should easily get u into the 10'sss....
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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2009, 01:06:24 am »

I don't see why you wouldn't go forced induction with E85 at the pump.  That much boost will get you moving pretty dang good!
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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2009, 09:18:22 am »

I am now leaning heavily to the following:

Boss or Dart Block 302
Forged pistons
forged rods
treated 2m crank
all studded up

TFS/TEA 205cnc heads
Super Vic intake
Blow through carb
CI solid roller cam

20+ psi intercooled turbo

That should give me whip lash...

Hell yeah!
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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2009, 05:52:29 pm »

My brother in law and I had a good chat about this turbo plan.

We both agree that it would be a better idea to go with a 9.5 Windsor block instead of an 8.2.

Everything else will stay the same, but it will be about 360 cubes in a bigger/stronger wrapper.

We are planning on beginning this build near the 1st of April.
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Suspension and Differential by Team Z Motorsports
9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

I'd rather be a fool who is loyal to his friends than a POS that jumps ship to save face. We were wrong in the end, but nobody can ever call us disloyal. I can live with that.
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2009, 09:22:27 pm »

dart/man o' war block or stock windsor block.....




and thats gonna be one hell of a upgrade from the previous motor.....
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2009, 03:19:27 am »

My brother in law and I had a good chat about this turbo plan.

We both agree that it would be a better idea to go with a 9.5 Windsor block instead of an 8.2.

Everything else will stay the same, but it will be about 360 cubes in a bigger/stronger wrapper.

We are planning on beginning this build near the 1st of April.


April's Fool's day............................ Hmmmmm
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2009, 03:20:40 am »

My brother in law and I had a good chat about this turbo plan.

We both agree that it would be a better idea to go with a 9.5 Windsor block instead of an 8.2.

Everything else will stay the same, but it will be about 360 cubes in a bigger/stronger wrapper.

We are planning on beginning this build near the 1st of April.


April's Fool's day............................ Hmmmmm

I agree lol, if you go Windsor, go BIG.  Must be a joke =p.

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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2009, 09:45:39 am »

My brother in law and I had a good chat about this turbo plan.

We both agree that it would be a better idea to go with a 9.5 Windsor block instead of an 8.2.

Everything else will stay the same, but it will be about 360 cubes in a bigger/stronger wrapper.

We are planning on beginning this build near the 1st of April.


April's Fool's day............................ Hmmmmm

well - not exactly.  This is my thought process.

The 69-74 Windsor block are about as strong as an entry level 8.2 aftermarket block (if you keep the revs down).

My thoughts of keeping the cubes low is to keep the Turbo smaller and the power down somewhat.

Do you know what a 408 and an 88mm Turbo can do?  Shred any sort of budget for one as it would require a ManOwar block, make a full on cage mandatory... that is getting into 8 sec territory (and I aint talking about bull riding).

A 360 Windsor and a 76mm Turbo would be about 4 grand cheaper and is still capable of low 10's high 9's.
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1986 Mustang GT Convertible
Suspension and Differential by Team Z Motorsports
9.5 Deck Forged Stroker Shortblock by FordStrokers
Trick Flow High Ports and Super Vic EFI intake by Duane Busch

I'd rather be a fool who is loyal to his friends than a POS that jumps ship to save face. We were wrong in the end, but nobody can ever call us disloyal. I can live with that.
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