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 91 
 on: April 14, 2018, 04:22:17 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by juiced coupe
I'd still choose the cubic inches. Especially if comparing a nice stroker to a remanufactured engine.

Yeah, power shifting at high rpm is fun, but higher rpm engines tend to be somewhat more finicky and require more maintenance.

Torque will put you into the seat and give you the power that you can feel. Its there when you forget to downshift, or just don't feel like it. No bucking, no fuss, no muss, just smooth power.

I also have the feeling that the T5 is going to disagree with either choice.

If you need to take some "bite" out of it, put less gear in it. It won't drag down a bigger engine nearly as bad.


Overall, I think that the 408/170s would be faster and more fun to drive than a 351/205 setup.

 92 
 on: April 13, 2018, 09:10:09 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by knucklefux
for a daily driver, i'm suggesting that you stick with something 302 based.  that way you can have manageable torque at lower rpm, but be able to wind it up and haul ass.

i had a 351 in mine.  was much happier with the souped up 302 i put in after.  below 4500rpm it was fairly mild.  above that it pulled like a freight train.  i had rhs 205 heads, vic jr efi with holley hp, and a mismatched comp cam. 

some FAC high ports or 205 TW on a 302 will be plenty for a daily IMO.

but if you have to swap, 351 over 408 by a lot.  if it was a weekend deal, i'd say 408 and no worries.

 93 
 on: April 13, 2018, 06:32:35 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by gator
Which 11R heads? There are several versions, from 170 to 205.

Your old heads can be ported as well.

Oops yea 205 11r if i go that route
I looked into porting, im better off buying new and selling mine than port, buy valves, and lsx style springs

 94 
 on: April 13, 2018, 05:46:58 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by juiced coupe
Which 11R heads? There are several versions, from 170 to 205.

Your old heads can be ported as well.

 95 
 on: April 13, 2018, 05:39:35 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by gator
All good points here i appreciate the feedback.

Yep all fox platforms suck in the rain, this isnt my only vehicle but the one i choose to drive to work and back daily 55mi commute total
 i dont suppose i need a 408.
But what are yalls guesses on the two options above on power/torque to the rear wheel?
Would one be more street friendy than the other?

How would a 408 with tiny tfs170s and a street cam act? Powerband wise

How about the 351 with 11r heads and street cam?

 96 
 on: April 13, 2018, 03:51:42 pm 
Started by gmatt9858 - Last post by juiced coupe
Next question....on a 306 these would need a custom cam to run well? I'm assuming these are 200cc intake ports.

Need? No.

Good idea? Sure. But its never a bad idea, if you want to make the best of things.


Those heads don't flow or make power like most other aftermarket heads of similar size. If you want to put the time into them, they responded pretty well to porting. The World heads that I've dealt with also had a fair amount of core shift, requiring some blending and shaping.

 97 
 on: April 13, 2018, 12:46:09 pm 
Started by gmatt9858 - Last post by gmatt9858
Next question....on a 306 these would need a custom cam to run well? I'm assuming these are 200cc intake ports.

 98 
 on: April 12, 2018, 07:35:21 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by CDW6212R
Same for me, why my plans for my Lincoln are tame, after I wrecked my first one. It had rained a few hours before I drove home, on a narrow road. One corner was still wet and I had just gotten up to speed(WOT) until it hit 2nd gear. I let off as planned, but the back end was mad.

That didn't work out well, our roads here all have ditches, and the one I went into had a tree stump, hit right under the k-member, flipped the car, and took out a telephone pole. I stepped out of the sunroof, all glass broken except one quarter window, and the sunroof a bystander ripped off of the car.

 99 
 on: April 12, 2018, 05:30:26 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by knucklefux
rain is what caused me to wreck mine.

i put 315 nitto tires on it to improve traction.  those wide ass tires hydroplaned when i ran through a very shallow puddle on the highway.  ass end went psycho, and i hit the ditch.  the front tires went through the puddle just fine.

looks like 225cc high ports are about $2500.  they've been at that price point for a while now IIRC.

 100 
 on: April 12, 2018, 05:24:37 pm 
Started by gator - Last post by juiced coupe
Driving in the rain was a nightmare.

From my experience, all Fox/SN95/New Edge cars are evil in the rain. Regardless of power (even V6 cars), they all suck.

To be honest, I wouldn't consider daily driving a Fox platform car. I've got a scar on hy head from when I did. In my opinion, they are fair weather cars. If I'm out driving my car and it starts raining, I pull over.

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