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Title: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 21, 2015, 06:01:28 pm
Provided by: Rodney Tolleson/1992 LX Coupe

01. Block
Displacement: 302
CR: stock

02. Heads
Brand: FORD
Model: GT-40P
Ported?: No

03. Camshaft (If the camshaft is custom, NOT providing this information is understandable, and NOT expected)
Brand: LUNATI
Grind Number/Model: 51027
Int./Exh. Duration @.050": 221/223
Int./Exh. Lift: 509/509
Lobe Separation Angle: 112

04. Induction
Carbureted/EFI: Fuelie
Intake: EXPLODER (ported upper)
Carb/Injector Size: 24lb.
Throttle Body Size: 75mm
Mass Air Size: 75mm Pro-M

05. Tuner: ford

06. Exhaust
Style:  Long tube/MAC
Diameter: 1-3/4
Catted: no
"X" or "H": X
Mufflers: FLOBASTARD 1 chamber 3"

07. Power Adder:

08. Transmission
Manual/Auto: Man-stick
Model: 1989 T5 syncro'd
Plate/Clutch: mongoose
Converter Stall:

09. Gears
Style: Motorsport
Ratio: 4.30
Differential Style: 8.8/spool

10. Rear Suspension Setup: UPR solid upper/lowers/50-50 shocks

11. Front Suspension Setup: D&D k-mem/arms/CO's/Lakewood struts

12. Tires: 26 goodyear FR's/MT 26x10 slicks

13. Car Weight: 2800ish race weight

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Time Slip:

60ft: 1.59
330ft: 4.84
1/8th ET: 7.61
1/8th MPH: 88.5
1/4 ET:
1/4 MPH:
Dyno Data:

FWHP: 
FWTQ:
RWHP:
RWTQ:

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COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS:

Oh yeah.............itz gotz a racin carank pulley!


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Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 21, 2015, 06:24:11 pm
Found this pile on craigslist 4 long years ago when a guy i know who whores out mustangs like a junk pimp acquired it from a member on here (windsor death)...who had it set-up as a "road racer" and it had sat in his yard for a coupla years....now before we get started I DID NOT HAVE THIS CAR PAINTED lol............anyone that knows me is aware cosmetics arent high on the list, its actually a little to pretty for my taste but what the hell............it had no underhood wiring, front suspension, rear suspension and still had the 4cyl fuel lines.............i loaded up a old rear/arms/spring and complete kmember etc. and loaded it up.......

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/supersecret001.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/supersecret001.jpg.html)

I then bought a used tube k member kit, had a "built" rear lying around a old junkyard 5.0 out of a mkvii i bought back in '99 some jy P heads, jy efi harness a complete $200 exhaust system, jy intake, broken t5 from my '89 etc. etc...............

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/super%20secret.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/super%20secret.jpg.html)

i've actually had this turd running for a year but it had a badly busted windshield and i had no motivation to work on it until recently i just decided to get it running and hit the track.............i put 80 street miles on it before i went to make sure nothing would fall off and we were on our way...........

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/SS%20SHOP.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/SS%20SHOP.jpg.html)
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/SS%20TRACK.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/SS%20TRACK.jpg.html)

It didnt run half bad for a first time baseline...............passes are in order.......

7.71/.75/.82/.80 and i lost one out the window in the shutdown area......was a .75 lol
High mph was 87.35

Then we bolted on the ported upper............
7.66/.61/.65/.67/.64/.61.......had a 8.21, missed second, car launchs a little crazy and it threw me off lol
High mph was 88.54.............

Heading back up this sat barring weather with the ported lower on it along with 30lb inj, and pro-m 80 maf..............sunday i'll try and double down and throw the bullets on it...........maybe crank a few .50's out of it.........

David has a vid somewhere of one of the passes...............



Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Jeff351w on December 21, 2015, 10:44:59 pm
How many unproven combo's do you you have?  LOL

BTW, the paints not bad.  Good luck with it.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 22, 2015, 10:18:40 am
How many unproven combo's do you you have?  LOL

BTW, the paints not bad.  Good luck with it.

To many  :dunno

'89 blue/silver gt........ Mr.Blue #008
'88 ssp blue coupe......... blue deuce/douche #002
'92 lx coupe........... super secret #005
'91 hatch AOD daily 7.88@86.............#003
'91 silver hatch AOD 7.68@89 (getting a manual)..........#009
'91 hatch (krusty..under construction)
'88 van..........#006



Super secret also got its name because i "conveniently" forgot to tell my significant other i had purchased it and she found out thru a buddys wife....not amused :tchill:

I never did a profile on the AOD cars as they are just ho-hum combos with autos that i've had for years and nobody wants to read that crap :disgust:

Thats basically all the junk i own along with a '85 LTD LX sorta roller lol..........
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Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Outlaw Bill on December 22, 2015, 12:51:32 pm
Almost in the 11's with cheap parts that "don't work", good job.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on December 22, 2015, 02:56:27 pm
Another impressive Mustang from Rodney.  :burnout  Sounds like it has a good chance of getting even better with the intake and improving the 60ft.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 22, 2015, 03:43:47 pm
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: liljoe07 on December 22, 2015, 04:17:40 pm
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....

4.30 gears, one hell of a driver(thats not afraid to grenade everything drivetrain related) will have that effect. Rod's not easy on shit.  ;D


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 22, 2015, 05:07:45 pm
5500 launch....need to get a 2-step on it and a few other things, this is what low powered turds do...........maybe a kids football in the pass. side :loser

Buddies camera died but he caught a coupla crappy shots with his phone

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/wheelie.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/wheelie.jpg.html)


(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/wheelie%202.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/wheelie%202.jpg.html)


Thanks guys....just a fun car anyone can reproduce and beat on....i joked with mike and david the "corral" guys would say its a 8.0 combo if i had done one of those "what will it run threads"........


Also those were "real" SSP wheels (lol) that i shot with the bbbblllaaaccckkkk...............welds at the track.........


Found Davids vid.................gotta get my man closer to the action lol...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54bcuYOQsTU


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Outlaw Bill on December 22, 2015, 05:16:48 pm
Yeah maybe a anti roll bar in the rear.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: wywindsor on December 22, 2015, 07:57:49 pm
just out of shits and giggles I would love for someone from the good air parts of the world to come to some elevation and run. When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are. We see what happens when we head south with limited tuning time and gain 6 to 7 tenths. His car being mostly stock he would lose 1.2 seconds at Bandimere, this being true I'm right there with my tune.


   I have a supercharged car and the rule of thumb here is 2# of boost to cover the power robbing charger and 2# to cover the baro  loss. thoughts


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on December 22, 2015, 08:20:12 pm
When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are.

  thoughts

Even at sea level, average cars don't run like Rodney's. His cars have deep gearing, good tuning, and great driving. On top of that, they test and tune a lot.

I watch him make a pass in one of his cars, and I want to walk over and kick my car. His blue coupe makes me especially sick.

If you are basing your expectations off of his, its highly likely that you will be disappointed. They have their act together over there. Or maybe its just the silicate water.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Outlaw Bill on December 23, 2015, 09:49:59 am
Rodney's car is the perfect example of not needing cubic dollars, just a little common sense and effort. I helped a coworkers son years ago with his Mustang, the first thing I had him do was 4.10 gears, suspension, and tires. Second thing was a set of cleaned up stock heads(blended valve job/bowl cleanup) and explorer intake. His dad said it no way it would run 13's, well it ran 12.87 with over 100,000 miles on the clock!. Yes it had the normal bolt on's also. I wish more would follow Randy's lead before spending big bucks on aftermarket heads and etc only to be let down.  There is more to going fast then adding torque and hp.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: garsten on December 23, 2015, 12:50:12 pm
just out of shits and giggles I would love for someone from the good air parts of the world to come to some elevation and run. When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are. We see what happens when we head south with limited tuning time and gain 6 to 7 tenths. His car being mostly stock he would lose 1.2 seconds at Bandimere, this being true I'm right there with my tune.


   I have a supercharged car and the rule of thumb here is 2# of boost to cover the power robbing charger and 2# to cover the baro  loss. thoughts

with all respect Ray, my thought are why would any one at sea level want to tow their car anywhere it will go slower.

i feel a portion of your pain when my weather station says we are racing at over 6000 ft.  the solution is to tow our cars to lower elevations and enjoy.  houston and saint louis are both on my bucket list.

cheers, claude


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 23, 2015, 02:43:12 pm
The scary thing is your un-ported GT40P 302 combo will lay waste to half of the AFR165/TW170 combos on Corral. If my Thunderbird was about 1000lb lighter (then it would be the same weight as your car) the thing would MPH identical in the 1/8th mile.....

4.30 gears, one hell of a driver(thats not afraid to grenade everything drivetrain related) will have that effect. Rod's not easy on shit.  ;D

Gears, suspension, tires, and not being afraid to break the hell out of everything helps  ;D

Runs great for some thrown together junk.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 23, 2015, 02:49:32 pm
Just wondering but is the cam you're running the old "Systemax" kit cam?


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 23, 2015, 04:08:03 pm
I totally feel for the guys that dont have the chance to run in good DA and when someone posts up a ET that seems slower than norm. i like to know what the DA was or where they are running at.............we all know it makes a big difference in ET and its not an excuse when a guy runs up high and throws DA out there along with his ET...............people that half way know what they're doing take that into account, the others just say "man thats slow"...........its crazy how every year the NHRA pro-stock guys gear the piss outta their stuff for bandimere............

Yes it's an old systemax cam...bought back in 2001/02 for $75 offa da ebay................

And yes i try to make plenty of runs testing shift points, launch rpm etc etc rather than looking for the "hero run" until we've got the combo kinda settled in but the biggest thing is having fun, hangin out and tryin to get it home under its own power lol.........


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 23, 2015, 04:12:08 pm
While we were at the track i used the horn of Gondor to call all my allies to battle! :ban

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/tube.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/tube.jpg.html)

Then gave David his annual exam............................. I'm sure it had a big "impact" on his day ...............everything was tip top! :naughty:

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/david.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/david.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: wywindsor on December 23, 2015, 06:54:28 pm
    The pro stock guys leave the rear gear alone which is mandated by nhra. What's not is the transmission gears. They change all but 5th I believe. They also run about 6.90 at 200 at Bandimere. In better air they run 6.5 at 212 or there about. The Dodge Hellcat that ran 10.9 in Texas by Richards rawlings only ran 12.4 At Bandimere at the mile high nationals.

    I agree That Rodney tunes and drives the hell out of his cars. Setup and combinations is everything. Look at Darin hendericks C.S. car.https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrSbgk_M3tWKWsAKxpXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10LTMzOS1zBGdwcmlkA1Z1WWN2TnZ0Um1DT0xoOEVtLjY4Y0EEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzQEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDMjgEcXVlcnkDZGFyaW4gaGVuZHJpY2tzIGNveW90ZSBzdG9jawR0X3N0bXADMTQ1MDkxNDcwMQ--?p=darin+hendricks+coyote+stock&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-339-s&fp=1


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: SlickTang on December 23, 2015, 08:15:00 pm
Ill take that coupe!  I might even put a B cam in it, maybe the body wont twist in two lol  :spit:


Seriously, nice runs man!


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 23, 2015, 08:16:10 pm

Yes it's an old systemax cam...bought back in 2001/02 for $75 offa da ebay................


I thought it was.

How good of DA do you guys usually get out there? Best I've run in has been about 700ft and we're 630ft or so above sea level. Heck when the DA here is up around 2000ft above sea level the car goes almost .2 seconds slower.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 23, 2015, 08:17:46 pm
Ill take that coupe!  I might even put a B cam in it, maybe the body wont twist in two lol  :spit:


Seriously, nice runs man!

The B cam will tear that car in two!

B cam the van!


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 24, 2015, 11:20:47 am
    The pro stock guys leave the rear gear alone which is mandated by nhra. What's not is the transmission gears. They change all but 5th I believe. They also run about 6.90 at 200 at Bandimere. In better air they run 6.5 at 212 or there about. The Dodge Hellcat that ran 10.9 in Texas by Richards rawlings only ran 12.4 At Bandimere at the mile high nationals.

 Look at Darin hendericks C.S. car.

I meant trans gears but i also wasnt aware pro stock had a mandated rear gear, i lnow the fuel cars do and have had it for years...........yeah that was my point how much they slow down.....run high 6.4's@213+ in "good" air and Erica has the record at 215mph.............

Those FS and Coyote guys are badasses..................

Our track is listed at 82ft. above SL...........I'd hazard a guess that alot of southeastern tracks are like this, we just have to fight the "soup"/humidity....air gets thick and heavy around here :-\

But i'm not complaining, i'm just glad to have a track to go to :burnout

The other day was -319 down to -1280+..............honestly my stuff doesnt run any better if its sea-level or -1200, the water grains/moisture are usually thru the the roof.............we dont get a ton of "dry" cool air but when we do.......then its on! lol


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Outlaw Bill on December 24, 2015, 11:57:06 am
The mandated gear is for 2016, it's because of the 10,500 rev limit.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on December 24, 2015, 02:49:55 pm
we dont get a ton of "dry" cool air but when we do.......then its on!

That ain't no joke.

My car is a solid 2.5-3 tenths faster on a dry winter day than it is in the spring or fall. I don't race in the summer but I'd expect to loose another 3 tenths or so.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on December 25, 2015, 05:02:47 am
just out of shits and giggles I would love for someone from the good air parts of the world to come to some elevation and run. When someone like Rodney makes a pass like he does with the shit he runs, us with altitude wonder how far off we are. We see what happens when we head south with limited tuning time and gain 6 to 7 tenths. His car being mostly stock he would lose 1.2 seconds at Bandimere, this being true I'm right there with my tune.


   I have a supercharged car and the rule of thumb here is 2# of boost to cover the power robbing charger and 2# to cover the baro  loss. thoughts

Shoot!  I've run at elevation at long gone LACR.  Yeah, it totally stinks for comparisons to other sea level tracks.  But I can tell you elevation ain't nothin'!  Having two young kids has hurt my drag racing way more than elevation!  

Turbo diesel truck to tow with.  Check!
Car trailer. Check!
Car to have fun and race with. Check!
Sea level track. Check!
Buddies to go with.  Check!
Time, energy, and ME time to make it happen?  FAIL!  LOL

Seconds and tenths???  How about years between being able to get to the track with a good conscious? 


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on December 25, 2015, 05:18:21 am
While we were at the track i used the horn of Gondor to call all my allies to battle! :ban

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/tube.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/tube.jpg.html)

Then gave David his annual exam............................. I'm sure it had a big "impact" on his day ...............everything was tip top! :naughty:

(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/david.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/david.jpg.html)

Horn of Gondor?  That's nothing but a drag strip beer bong!  Can't fool me.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 25, 2015, 12:31:25 pm
The mandated gear is for 2016, it's because of the 10,500 rev limit.

Somehow i missed or forgot there was a mandated gear along with the other garbage rules (10500 redline for example) for 2016............just make it more of a spec/cookie cutter class than it already is.............


Just go Nate! Whats up with the trailer part lol?

Someone slipped some mello yello in my bong.....make me go nnuutttzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on December 30, 2015, 08:50:26 pm
Just imagine if this thing was a Police Interceptor?   :wonder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpRQbUY7rA&feature=em-share_video_user

I can't help myself. He cracks me up in this video.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: wywindsor on December 30, 2015, 09:03:46 pm
Juice you fucker I saw this last night and didn't post it. Damn funny


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on December 30, 2015, 09:08:56 pm
Juice you fucker I saw this last night and didn't post it. Damn funny

Ever since Rodney did that a couple years ago, I've had it saved on YouTube.  I watch it when I need something to laugh at. Its where the silicate water came from.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 30, 2015, 09:40:25 pm
Someday people will give up on frame connectors and get some reinforced floorpans for wwwhheeeellliiieessss!!!!!!! :burnout


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on December 30, 2015, 09:48:03 pm
Someday people will give up on frame connectors and get some reinforced floorpans for wwwhheeeellliiieessss!!!!!!! :burnout

I use the frame connectors to weigh my car down in the middle, to help keep it on the ground. But man, before that.........

They are also a good place to put the jack.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: David Claflin on December 30, 2015, 10:07:00 pm
Just imagine if this thing was a Police Interceptor?   :wonder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpRQbUY7rA&feature=em-share_video_user

I can't help myself. He cracks me up in this video.
That's only Mt. Dew, you should see the Mello Yello version.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: quickshift on December 30, 2015, 11:47:25 pm
Just imagine if this thing was a Police Interceptor?   :wonder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpRQbUY7rA&feature=em-share_video_user

I can't help myself. He cracks me up in this video.
......that's sum funny shit man!      :spit:


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on December 31, 2015, 01:05:29 pm
Remind me to fly Rodney out if I ever need to sell a car.  That video made the blue book value of police interceptors go up 50%!

Whats up with the trailer part lol?

My brother-in-law would almost insist I borrow his instead of driving to the track.  Knocked my pride and testosterone down to the point I prefer to trailer it now.  So when he moved, I ran out and spent enough money to do a fairly nice shortblock on a trailer.  Now it sits in my side yard while I kid myself that I'll be going racing once a month.  :punch  But don't worry... I'm going to make a new year resolution tonight!!!


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Jeff351w on December 31, 2015, 02:05:00 pm
Just imagine if this thing was a Police Interceptor?   :wonder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpRQbUY7rA&feature=em-share_video_user

I can't help myself. He cracks me up in this video.

That is hilarious.  I want some of that medication your on Rodney.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on December 31, 2015, 04:46:10 pm


My brother-in-law would almost insist I borrow his instead of driving to the track.

 I'm going to make a new year resolution tonight!!!

tell him its got a passenger seat :thumb:


Mine will be to get every car i own running and funcrtional :spit:


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: David Claflin on January 02, 2016, 04:11:35 pm
Ya need one of these for the candy van
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1XlX8izDM


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on January 02, 2016, 04:33:55 pm
Just go Nate! Whats up with the trailer part lol?

I'm a firm believer in using car trailers too. Having completely destroyed a rear end a few years ago, I went and bought my own. Getting a wrecker to take my car home would have sucked, especially since it was around midnight and across state lines. I've also had to haul others cars home for them.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on January 02, 2016, 04:41:41 pm
Ya need one of these for the candy van
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1XlX8izDM

You know, there is one thing that I never understood about people doing the Lightning swaps. Why not swap to the Cobra supercharger and plenum?

They are common enough and would lower the engine profile by several inches. Probably enough to get a semi-normal hood over it.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on January 03, 2016, 12:02:29 am
I'm a firm believer in using car trailers too. 

Oh i own one.............i just dont use it...........i'm hard headed and just love drivin my junk to the track and everywhere else for that matter, plus i turned my tow vehicle into a race car.......again  :duh


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: wywindsor on January 03, 2016, 04:36:26 pm
Ya need one of these for the candy van
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1XlX8izDM

You know, there is one thing that I never understood about people doing the Lightning swaps. Why not swap to the Cobra supercharger and plenum?

They are common enough and would lower the engine profile by several inches. Probably enough to get a semi-normal hood over it.

 Won't fit do to a longer intake and bolt pattern.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: juiced coupe on January 03, 2016, 05:09:54 pm
Won't fit do to a longer intake and bolt pattern.

Okay, I didn't do a lot of research on this. But from what I gather, there was a supercharger change somewhere midways in Lightning production.

From what I read, the 99-01s use the same basic supercharger as the Cobra (only the inlet being different). By the looks of it, the drive assemblys can be swapped between them.

I may be completely off base. With the popularity of aftermarket superchargers on these vehicles, I'm sure that there are enough spares floating around to verify.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on February 12, 2016, 02:11:32 pm
Well not only did the van go to the track but i managed to slip up there in super secret..............David had left the super ported lower with me and i decided to bolt it on along with some 30lb inj's and a 80mm pro-m maf...........
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/ported.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/ported.jpg.html)

Test drive felt promising but my butt dyno has been wrong...on many occasions.............so off to the track we went...............David and Mike trying to figure out how i ended up with a somewhat decent paint car :dunno
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/track%201.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/track%201.jpg.html)

First pass was a whopper.................7.36@91.95..............corral guys would have a stroke if they saw how big that lower was and how much bottomend it killed :gfy................made a timing bump 7.47@91.56..........went back down 7.37@93.26.............10.69 tripping the inertia switch and a 7.92 missing 2nd :duh.........7.39/.40/.47 and it slowed a little on the last 2...............and the temp gauge jumped...uh-oh......got a little chocolate milk..............drove it home of course
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/track%202.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/track%202.jpg.html)
..............and found this............
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/MrBlue008/gasket.jpg) (http://s765.photobucket.com/user/MrBlue008/media/gasket.jpg.html)

That was on me..................ALL the head bolts except the first 2 on #1 were "tight" but not in torque spec...........drivers head was good...............dont know what happened, its been so long since i threw it together but i've basically got it all fixed and will get it back up there soon................got another mustang project i'm getting back on the road after 4 years sitting idle :burnout



Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on February 13, 2016, 03:40:32 am
Where the pictures at a car show or at the track?  Runs alright for a pretty car.  ;D


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on February 13, 2016, 02:11:12 pm
Where the pictures at a car show or at the track?  Runs alright for a pretty car.  ;D

Track my man...................i dont do car shows...............lawnchairs and dyno sheets bore me to death.............to each his own of course but the car show guys usually make my eyes glaze over after a hour or so lol...............


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on February 13, 2016, 08:04:25 pm
Just giving you a hard time because the car is so shiny and clean looking.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on February 13, 2016, 08:56:17 pm
I know Nate just meesin back lol :party..............it looks better in pics than up close..................on a side note it is back up and runnin and feeling ornery based on my butt dyno.............should get it back up there in a week or so, hopefully before the hot weather starts rolling in :-\


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Bam54 on February 13, 2016, 11:08:00 pm
Glad you got it back up and running got to take advantage of the stellar conditions I made a pass today that was -400 ft DA.

Bam


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 14, 2016, 10:13:00 pm
Glad you got it back up and running got to take advantage of the stellar conditions I made a pass today that was -400 ft DA.

Bam

We never get air that good here. Best DA I've ever run in has been around 700 feet above sea level. Track elevation here is 620 feet.


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 14, 2016, 10:18:52 pm
First pass was a whopper.................7.36@91.95..............corral guys would have a stroke if they saw how big that lower was and how much bottomend it killed :gfy................

I'm suprised your car runs so well since it doesn't have 350ft/lbs of torque at 2000rpm. We all know that low end torque and 3.27-3.55 gears are a requirement to be able to drive the car on the street. You can't argue with that logic  :P


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 69 Merc on February 15, 2016, 03:24:46 pm

First pass was a whopper.................7.36@91.95..............corral guys would have a stroke if they saw how big that lower was and how much bottomend it killed :gfy................



Nice!     ;D


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on February 16, 2016, 09:26:21 am
Glad you got it back up and running got to take advantage of the stellar conditions I made a pass today that was -400 ft DA.

Bam

We never get air that good here. Best DA I've ever run in has been around 700 feet above sea level. Track elevation here is 620 feet.

I'm spoiled.............best we've had here this year on a raceday was -1400+ lol...............it was 600+ above on the last mustang trip........great day but the DA wasnt "killer"........


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 16, 2016, 01:03:55 pm

I'm spoiled.............best we've had here this year on a raceday was -1400+ lol...............it was 600+ above on the last mustang trip........great day but the DA wasnt "killer"........

It's never been that good here, at least when the tracks are open. We get really good air in January and February, when the tracks are covered in snow.....


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on February 17, 2016, 02:27:09 pm
Damn..........snow.....................humidity will be rolling in here before long then i'll be crying about racing in soup lol :rant


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 302ute on February 17, 2016, 05:10:58 pm
We get to race in soup here most of the time, last weekend was about 85% humidity but still ran a PB :burnout Bring on the cooler months, we are in summer over here....


Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: Mr.Blue on March 31, 2016, 08:34:35 am
Just a quick update.............i threw the bullets on and headed back up at the end of Feb..........its got a weird thing it does sometimes when i shift 1/2 or 2/3..almost like it cuts off or hits a wall and its reflected in some of the timeslips....feels really strange, haven been back up to work on it, been busy with another car lol

7.37@91.92
LBTA: Got timed out on the tree messin with launch rpm :duh
7.46@91.19
8.20@79 missed third :dunno
7.39@89.91
7.32@92.11
7.36@91.75
7.34@91.95
7.35@90.82
7.40@91.92
7.36@92.29
7.43@91.00
7.47@91.55
7.44@90.82

It was tired after that so i called it a night lol...............more to come when i get a chance with this one lol



Title: Re: Not a proven combo, just my junk...............IV
Post by: 289nate on March 31, 2016, 10:43:26 am
It's still running pretty good for a show car.  :burnout