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Title: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 20, 2012, 02:48:04 pm
Bored at work...So i figured i would throw this out there...

Car is 87 GT Vert.On3 turbo..Trickflow TW 170cc heads,TF street heat intake,70mm TB,stock cam,1.6 roller rockers,Snow performance stage 2 meth kit,42# injectors,340 lph fuel pump,tunning with Moates QH,AOD mild stall.3.55's

Wonder how much HP i will make...and What ET's i should have the car back in a few weeks...I can really run it yet..Need a 6 point cage and subframes...might take it down once get yelled at and kicked off...but at least see what it runs while i save up for the safety stuff... So i should be making like 10 psi with the turbo...and mods i listed any ideas guys?


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 69 Merc on March 20, 2012, 02:51:01 pm
 :wonder:


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 20, 2012, 05:42:19 pm
:wonder:

i dont understand?


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 69 Merc on March 20, 2012, 06:04:47 pm

It means that I'm pondering this question and am awaiting for people with experience about your question to chime in ...


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 20, 2012, 06:06:28 pm

It means that I'm pondering this question and am awaiting for people with experience about your question to chime in ...

ohhh ok..lol...i mean i no there isnt any real way of guessing just was wondering...if anyone had a close build to mine and see what they made....


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 347HO on March 20, 2012, 06:11:04 pm
If your car was a coupe, I doubt you'd need a roll cage even then.
I'm only guessing however.


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 20, 2012, 06:32:48 pm
If your car was a coupe, I doubt you'd need a roll cage even then.
I'm only guessing however.

So that means 11.49 or slower...cause a coupe/hatch doesnt need a rollbar until 11.49


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: FordRacing250 on March 20, 2012, 08:26:33 pm
How big is the turbo, and how much boost? Stock short block i assume?


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 20, 2012, 08:44:39 pm
How big is the turbo, and how much boost? Stock short block i assume?

Yes a stock block ...using head studs..TF tw 170cc heads with some porting and polishing done,TF street heat 70mm TB...stock cam..the turbo is a 70mm .69 A/R housing going to run about 10 psi and use a snow performance stage 2 meth kit...


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: mj88stang on March 24, 2012, 07:16:48 pm
i would think a high 10 is there once you get it all sorted out and suspension dialed in. verts need roll bars at 13.99(i believe) so don't even bother going to the track without one in my opinion. if the track has any tech at all i doubt they'll let you run even once.


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 24, 2012, 09:22:52 pm
I checked the NHRA rules its actually 13.49...you need a 6 point roll bar and safety harness,fire jacket, due to the turbo...I can make some passes just can go faster then that..i can do some really good 1/8 mile runs and then let up at the 1000 ft mark..lol...I would love to see a high 10 second run..that would be awesome....Oh i ran the car with the supercharger it went 13.3 lol they told me to slow it down they didnt tell me to leave if i went just slow it down...


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: juiced coupe on March 24, 2012, 09:35:46 pm
One more thing to keep in mind is that a vert is nowhere near as rigid as a coupe or even a hatch. Without something to help stiffen the car up, that bitch will twist up and drive all kinds of evil. Trust me, having to fight a car on the strip can be unnerving.


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 24, 2012, 09:46:49 pm
Im going to have sub frames installed,im thinking the 6 point cage should help too...and better torque boxes installed..welded in..


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 69 Merc on March 24, 2012, 09:53:20 pm
Im going to have sub frames installed,im thinking the 6 point cage should help too...and better torque boxes installed..welded in..

And reinforce the four corners of your frame ...


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: MY 85 GT on March 24, 2012, 10:04:35 pm
Im going to have sub frames installed,im thinking the 6 point cage should help too...and better torque boxes installed..welded in..

And reinforce the four corners of your frame ...

What do you mean how would they do that?


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 69 Merc on March 25, 2012, 12:24:03 am
Im going to have sub frames installed,im thinking the 6 point cage should help too...and better torque boxes installed..welded in..

And reinforce the four corners of your frame ...

What do you mean how would they do that?

What I do is turn the inside 90* "edge" where two ends of your frame meet at a point into the base of a triangle with some steel bar and my MIG welder.

IOW there are four corners of your ride's frame -- turn each "rectangle end" into an isosceles triangle ... make sense?  (This will greatly strengthen them)


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: FordRacing250 on March 25, 2012, 03:17:26 am
That isnt nessecery


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: 69 Merc on March 25, 2012, 03:16:49 pm
That isnt nessecery

I did it to the Merc before I put in it's monster 408W -- "squaring the frame" ...


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: juiced coupe on March 25, 2012, 03:33:30 pm
That isnt nessecery

I did it to the Merc before I put in it's monster 408W -- "squaring the frame" ...

Um, Fox Mustang. Different frame, there are no open box ends.


Title: Re: HP Guessimate...
Post by: FordRacing250 on March 25, 2012, 04:17:46 pm
Honestly, its added unnessecery weight. Once you tie in the sub frames 90% of the time you are good. When you want to go faster, then you start adding more bars in certian areas for strength and safety. Even then, there usually isnt anything done to the 4 corners. Even when you get into the 25.x certs, you dont need bars going to the front.