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« on: July 08, 2007, 06:41:10 pm »

OK Ladies and Gents.....

First of all, sorry for the lack of the Tom Brokaw or newscaster voice tone, but as Thumper would say, it's......Thumper Just ME.......By The Way.......if anybody has some shit to say about it..... ............. ....feel free to do so.

Second....for those of you out there that didn't believe the importance of the neutral switches circuit (failure code 67) for a proper idle control, prevent the infamous rolling/surging idle till it stalls condition, etc, etc........here is the proof. If this is not proof enough.....Sad Sigh....I only have two words ....................shock therapy.......  Whistling  

Third.....special thanks go to "Defacto_pr Productions"... Cheesy...  for providing the HW/SW we will use to "document" all the SBFTech/Fordstrokers/CI/Thumper/etc projects we have on the works for Jibaro's Project SOS, his FI SN95, and the long term plans for both under Quote-Unquote design right now.

Sooooo...w/out further adue .....here it is.



<a href="http://351winsor.com/joel/Flash_Simul/Code67_Rolling.SWF" target="_blank">http://351winsor.com/joel/Flash_Simul/Code67_Rolling.SWF</a>


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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2007, 07:59:27 pm »

Great video, Joel, keep 'em coming...
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2007, 08:07:34 pm »

 Good Post........ We want more Joel........ Popcorn on Chair
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2007, 08:46:41 pm »

Kinda funny how the car died just before you could get the pin in place...

Very cool,
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 10:07:33 am »

 

Bravo!
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 12:40:16 pm »

Leave it to Beaver......I mean Joel to provide positive proof.. ...u so crazy.......
BTW r u related to big foot.....must be........I tink u kneed 2 afeitar ur brazos...... Shaggy.... LMAO on floorSmiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2007, 01:23:04 pm »

Awesome!

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2008, 06:53:07 pm »

Joel, my car was an automatic and a t5 swap was done. I can start my car without engaging my clutch, so I think that switch isn't connected. Will it cause the same effect? I have had idle issues but it seems that a lot of iac cleaning and idle adjusting has minimized it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 07:39:13 pm »

Joel, my car was an automatic and a t5 swap was done. I can start my car without engaging my clutch, so I think that switch isn't connected. Will it cause the same effect? I have had idle issues but it seems that a lot of iac cleaning and idle adjusting has minimized it.
It will depend on what pin 30 at the ECM is looking at....... if it's a ground signal pin 30 is registering, it shouldn't surge as a cause of the NSS. LUK
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The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
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Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open.  (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it. (Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2008, 07:42:06 pm »

I have no idea. I did an A9L swap on there and removed the T4MO. I'm not sure if that affects anything, but since I don't have the car I was just wondering.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 12:32:47 am »

Yo-el! 

Hey, for lack of FUNDS...I have no soundcard in my computer so maybe I can just ask and you could "reply."...lmao!!

SO, I'm still seeing a few (read:more than I'd like to have) issues with idle, backfiring, throttle response...etc...

I have the Neutral Safety Switch "jumpered" with what appears to be a plug that just connects the two wires to complete the circuit. 

What the narrative reads to me is that this could cause some issues>??? 

My safety switch is gone from the car so would it behoove (sp?) me to buy one and set it up the correct way??

Thanks for the knowledge as always,
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