Is this enough carb?

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[ShaunK]

I wonder how many of the people who bought those carbs actually thing there gonna be 100 percent dead on outta the box. It's not hard or even that time consuming to tune a carb. Hey they wanna go buy a carb "tailored" to their combo and that's fine with me. I've allready  had a few customers have me fix a few of those.

[347HO]

I wonder how many of the people who bought those carbs actually thing there gonna be 100 percent dead on outta the box. It's not hard or even that time consuming to tune a carb. Hey they wanna go buy a carb "tailored" to their combo and that's fine with me. I've allready  had a few customers have me fix a few of those.

Dude...  I doubt anyone that says their Carb was 100% out of the box.
What's the relative humidity, temp and baro in the morning of a certain day?  What's it at Noon?  What's it at 5pm?
Now...   what's the relative humidity, temp and baro the next day?

Changing mains and secs, screwing in and out air bleeds, Pvalve...  that's what most people consider "dialing in" the carb.
It's those that know how to change the angle/rate/ratio of the the throttle plate; size/rate/ratio on the pumps, etc...  these are what most people consider "tuning" a carb, requires a considerable amount of time, and most people do not know (yet) how to do.  In the case where a person does know how...   knows that spending 10 to 20 more to get it close is a bargain.

[fidstang]

Damn, 4 pages of bickering. Way to go!
What we need is to just let people make their own decissions regardless of how we feel about it!
You can only show someone the door. They have to be the ones to walk through it!
If you feel tuning the car yourself is something everyone should do, then teach it. Don't preach it@!
Your in the right section. Now open up a how to setup carbs and tune for the basics and let the ones that want to learn..........LEARN!

[qtrhors]

If you're racing ET, then run your dial in.  Don't matter how quick you are, just matters you run what you paint on your window.  In this case you don't need to tune for anything. 

actually have you to "tune" the "dial in" on your window

 
Tim

[347HO]

Howdy Fiddie!
Although I agree with everything you wrote...  the topic here was "...  is this enough carb...?".  Not how to tune it or dial it in.
So it's morphed into a really nice argumentation on how many people here can figure that out better than a shop which does it 10 hours a day, 6 days a week.

[347HO]

If you're racing ET, then run your dial in.  Don't matter how quick you are, just matters you run what you paint on your window.  In this case you don't need to tune for anything. 

actually have you to "tune" the "dial in" on your window

 
Tim

It's been a while...  but I'm thinking you can adjust your dial in between rounds.  I'm probably wrong, like I said...  it's been a long time.

[ShaunK]

I wonder how many of the people who bought those carbs actually thing there gonna be 100 percent dead on outta the box. It's not hard or even that time consuming to tune a carb. Hey they wanna go buy a carb "tailored" to their combo and that's fine with me. I've allready  had a few customers have me fix a few of those.

Dude...  I doubt anyone that says their Carb was 100% out of the box.
What's the relative humidity, temp and baro in the morning of a certain day?  What's it at Noon?  What's it at 5pm?
Now...   what's the relative humidity, temp and baro the next day?

Changing mains and secs, screwing in and out air bleeds, Pvalve...  that's what most people consider "dialing in" the carb.
It's those that know how to change the angle/rate/ratio of the the throttle plate; size/rate/ratio on the pumps, etc...  these are what most people consider "tuning" a carb, requires a considerable amount of time, and most people do not know (yet) how to do.  In the case where a person does know how...   knows that spending 10 to 20 more to get it close is a bargain.

If your gonna qoute me and least read what I wrote....I said I wondered how many people ACTUALLY think the carb is gonna be right on outta the box. Tuning a carb to me includes all of the above... Are you suggesting I don't know what I'm doing? You definately seem to be "talking" down to me.

[347HO]

I wonder how many of the people who bought those carbs actually thing there gonna be 100 percent dead on outta the box. It's not hard or even that time consuming to tune a carb. Hey they wanna go buy a carb "tailored" to their combo and that's fine with me. I've allready  had a few customers have me fix a few of those.

Dude...  I doubt anyone that says their Carb was 100% out of the box.
What's the relative humidity, temp and baro in the morning of a certain day?  What's it at Noon?  What's it at 5pm?
Now...   what's the relative humidity, temp and baro the next day?

Changing mains and secs, screwing in and out air bleeds, Pvalve...  that's what most people consider "dialing in" the carb.
It's those that know how to change the angle/rate/ratio of the the throttle plate; size/rate/ratio on the pumps, etc...  these are what most people consider "tuning" a carb, requires a considerable amount of time, and most people do not know (yet) how to do.  In the case where a person does know how...   knows that spending 10 to 20 more to get it close is a bargain.

If your gonna qoute me and least read what I wrote....I said I wondered how many people ACTUALLY think the carb is gonna be right on outta the box. Tuning a carb to me includes all of the above... Are you suggesting I don't know what I'm doing? You definately seem to be "talking" down to me.

Nah...  I try not to talk down to anyone.  Especially since I'm pretty short, height wise myself.

[jds95]

I think it's enough for what you want to do.  If no one else will answer you I will!!

[frdnut]

The question was answered (800-850ish)with the majority going with the 950Hp as most of us were recommended by Jay and then Patrick at pro sytems....Then it just got a little off track with where you should buy it from.

[fastford577]

i like to play with myself 

[Thumper460]

Is it BIG enough??  Isnt that what we all ask??  I run 780 ( the new 750 tested at different flow than they did in the 70's) on my SBF and have nothing but performance!!  I do , however push the suckers to where they sing.. 7500 rpm!!  I went form the 600 cfm.. to the 735 cfm to the 780 cfm ( ok I will say 750 !!  LOL) and never looked back!! yes RPM is the key, as well as heads and camshaft..  but since the 70's.. that IS what is on my SBF's!  As for the Carter... oops "edelbrock" they are a good bolt on and dont tune carb!!  Most dont use it as it is a bitch to LEARN and then TUNE it!!  AVS or the AFB !!??  In order to modify the secondary opening on the AVS ( Air vac. secondary) you have to actually remove the counter weights and GRIND them to perfection.. of fuck up, to get then to open where YOU want!!  Change the jets... then the needles, and then the vac springs... hell the kit will cost over 40.00 alone!!  Thus the HOLLEY !! the tune parts are cheap/ the technic is easy/ and there are a bazillion guys out there to help ya.!! 

CFM for a big cube high HP engine??  did you know the Chevys came with a 800 CFM on their 350-350 LT1 engines??  if it were Me??  750 MIN!!  850 MAX!!  I would NOT use the 'brock as I stated above.... Tuning !!  And I mean tuning... the power valves.. the squirters... the accel pum cams.. the accel pump... jets... air horns... blah blah blah... anything short of that is Bull Shit!!
Learn the lesson that were learned before you..... or stay F/I and computer controlled ECU's... Yes??  There is a lot of power in "TUNES"!!

Just me..............................................................

Thumper

[Tater]

Thumper....I like You....you have always called shit like it is. IMHO, You and I.... along with a select few others in here are an old school breed with messing with carbs on our own.  With your post... I can see my head a lil' above the water compared to all the "Call Such-n-Such" comments by people who probably can't even adjust their own valve lash!!...

TY Thumper!

Tater

[Thumper460]

Old school....??  I am so old the guys were still talking 3/4 race and full race cams... or the god almighty  "Dontov 30/30" solid on the SBC's... LOL  Yes, all the new guys have to do, is admit that their GRANDFATHERS might know more than them...lol!!  and a banana for that!!

That is why we are here.. spread the word AS we KNOW it, and HOPE some of it rubs off on the younger Gearheads!!  God I love this shit!!   LOL

Hey did I tell you I just put a water/meth kit on my Supercharged MINI??  Man does that sucker pull......  oops wrong site!!

Just me...............................................

Thumper

[FordRacing250]

hey thumper.... your not old... i still can get 3/4 or full race cams... for my flat heads or inline 4 flathead model a/b engines... you have alot to offer for everyone and make it possible for some of us lil guys to show some people whats up
tim