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pops88gt
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #45 on:
June 13, 2009, 02:44:54 pm »
Ok, I get that, after some of this
Any thoughts on keeping the stock set up? Function of header evac with an s/c vs n/a?
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eljavy
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #46 on:
June 13, 2009, 04:26:37 pm »
hey joel im running pcv valve is not a stock and 2 valve covers breathers and the car runs fine but i have a pms and i
my cuestions is if i relocated to the intake duct before the SC will it contaminate the intake with oil?
do i just weld a tube to the power pipe in the intake of the s/c can i used where the bypass valve used to be?
righ now this is my pcv setup
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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June 13, 2009, 08:42:39 pm »
Javier..... you are pressurizing the crankcase by keeping that PCV valve in use. You need a real check valves setup there + do what you mentioned on the post-MAF air duct section....... or add another breather to the PCV valve and plug the intake port.
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #48 on:
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Quote from: Joel5.0 on June 13, 2009, 08:42:39 pm
Javier..... you are pressurizing the crankcase by keeping that PCV valve in use. You need a real check valves setup there + do what you mentioned on the post-MAF air duct section....... or add another breather to the PCV valve and plug the intake port.
do u have a part number i can look on my local part store? or were can i get this real check valve?
joel
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pops88gt
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #49 on:
June 15, 2009, 04:48:13 pm »
Breater & PCV way to go or F-NO?
« on: December 26, 2006, 11:37:11 am »
Found all my answers here!!! THANKS.
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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September 27, 2009, 11:19:38 pm »
Joel
Score another one for you and the SBF Tech contributors. I have been in the process of converting my 67 Mustang to EFI. I have been running a blow through Paxton carb'ed setup, but found a super deal on a 1991 Mustang engine, EEC, wiring ...the full setup. Got it all installed and could not get it to run. The car would surge and backfire through the charger with a super strong unburned fuel smell. Spent the last month chasing down every wire, sensor everything. Thanks to you guys I didn't go and throw money at it. I trusted your inputs when you guys said the ECM and sensor are very dependable, so I just kept reading every post here.
Finally found this post on supercharger PCVs and the connection to the TB from the right valve cover. I went out and changed valve covers to an old style 302 with breathers and plugged the PCV for now. Started the car, ran the base idle reset and ....perfect. Idles at 850 and revs freely.
Thanks to you and everyone that is sharing info on SBF Tech
Jeff
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #51 on:
September 27, 2009, 11:42:23 pm »
Quote from: RavenR on September 27, 2009, 11:19:38 pm
Joel
Score another one for you and the SBF Tech contributors. I have been in the process of converting my 67 Mustang to EFI. I have been running a blow through Paxton carb'ed setup, but found a super deal on a 1991 Mustang engine, EEC, wiring ...the full setup. Got it all installed and could not get it to run. The car would surge and backfire through the charger with a super strong unburned fuel smell. Spent the last month chasing down every wire, sensor everything. Thanks to you guys I didn't go and throw money at it. I trusted your inputs when you guys said the ECM and sensor are very dependable, so I just kept reading every post here.
Finally found this post on supercharger PCVs and the connection to the TB from the right valve cover. I went out and changed valve covers to an old style 302 with breathers and plugged the PCV for now. Started the car, ran the base idle reset and ....perfect. Idles at 850 and revs freely.
Thanks to you and everyone that is sharing info on SBF Tech
Jeff
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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November 19, 2009, 11:05:51 pm »
Quote from: TWR2003 on April 02, 2009, 11:56:19 am
I understand that its possible to install the dist housing slightly differently and what is most important is the
relative position
of ther dist housing/cap to the rotor (within the allowance for housing rotation for setting base timing within the mechanical contraints of the the TFI module), but I feel for a person who does not have much experience with this those series of pictures/digrams can be very confusing and misleading. I write this not as a criticism of those that posted as I know that this info was put there to be helpful (and Ive personally been helped by much of the tech info at the SBF website) but this particular info set needs to be reviewed and that conflicting and/or contradictive info be deleted or at least given better explanation.
Thank you
T
In my case the correct position is the red line. I was trying to advance the timing and the module was hiting the water outlet and still did not get the desired timing advance. With Joel's advice, I took the ignition out and put it back moving the rotor counter clockwise and now I can advance all the timing I want.
I guess it all depends on a case basis.
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #53 on:
November 20, 2009, 06:33:02 am »
Quote from: jucaan on November 19, 2009, 11:05:51 pm
In my case the correct position is the red line. I was trying to advance the timing and the module was hiting the water outlet and still did not get the desired timing advance. With Joel's advice, I took the ignition out and put it back moving the rotor counter clockwise and now I can advance all the timing I want.
I guess it all depends on a case basis.
If you went from the green to the red, it's backwards........ it wouldn't allow to advance it much since you would be retarding the timing position.....
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Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open. (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.
(Samuel Johnson)
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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Reply #54 on:
November 20, 2009, 09:35:23 am »
If you went from the green to the red, it's backwards........ it wouldn't allow to advance it much since you would be retarding the timing position.....
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You are right Joel
. I moved it counter clockwise so the righ position will be the green line. All I know is that now I can advance it to 38*, 40*. Now I need to test where he is the happiest.
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Re: EFI DO's and DONT's (A Work in Progress)
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November 20, 2009, 09:59:22 am »
... don't worry... eso pasa, eso pasa....... LOL
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www.fordstrokers.com
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Quote from: Joel5.0
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open. (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.
(Samuel Johnson)
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