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DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test
NOTE:
For better resolution diagrams, open the attachments at the end of this article. You can zoom the picture once you open it in a pop-up window.
Definitions:
KOEO = Key On Engine Off
KOER = Key On Engine Running
STO = Self-Test Output
STI = Self-Test Input or trigger wire to initiate self-test routines
CEL = Check Engine Light
MIL = Malfunction Indicator Light = CEL
ECM = Engine Control Module or computer
DLC = Data Link Connector
VIP = Vehicle Interface Port Connector = DLC
SIGRTN = SIGnal ReTurN or ground reference for sensors provided through ECM
EEC-IV = Electronic Engine Control IV generation or Ford's OBD-I system
OD Codes = On Demand Codes, this are the failures the system logs based on a real-time check, failure is present.
CM Codes = Continuous Memory Codes, this are the failure codes the system has logged and saved in memory based on a failure the system detected at one point in time.
R Codes = Engine Running Codes, this are the failure codes the system logs based on the KOER self-test routine.
Tools/Equipment:
Analog VOM or 12-vdc Test Light
Paper Clip or piece of Jumper Wire
Pen and paper
Next...need to identify the VIP/DLC connector location. Using Ford Mustangs as reference, for '86-'93 models...it is located behind the LH/Driver side strut tower. For '94-'95 Mustangs, it is located behind the RH/Passenger side strut tower as shown below.
'86-'93 VIP/DLC Connector Location
'94-'95 VIP/DLC Connector Location
Now that the VIP/DLC connector has been found, check its terminals diagram below:
Set the jumper wire, 12-vdc test light or AVOM as shown in the following diagram.
Codes flashing/needle sweeping patterns comes in two flavors, '86-'93 Mustangs, pre-'91 Fords follow a
2-digit pattern
and SN95 Mustangs and post-'91 Fords follow a
3-digit pattern
as shown below:
2-Digit Codes
3-Digit Codes
Code 327
Field Examples
The following is a contribution made by
Neomustangs
, it's the results of a KOEO self-test using the CEL to read the flash patterns of a 2-digit pattern Mustang (or pre-'94). If you watch, you'll see the following codes show up:
15 - 21 - 24 - 67 - 85 - 95 (OD codes first pass) - delay -
15 - 21 - 24 - 67 - 85 - 95 (OD codes second pass)
After those 2 sets, a 6 sec delay then 1 flash (= separator code 10) followed by another 6 second delay. Then......
95 (pause) 95 (First and Second pass of the registered CM codes)
http://www.youtube.com/v/vcYoApXdR2Y&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01
The following is another contribution made by
Neomustangs
, it's the results of a KOER self-test using the CEL to read the flash patterns of a 2-digit pattern Mustang (or pre-'94). If you watch, you'll see the following codes show up:
4 (engine ID code for 8 cylinder engine) - big pause and engine revving up/down - 26 - 26
http://www.youtube.com/v/-zhCrPiGQCU&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01
The following is a contribution made by
stang562
, it's the results of a KOEO self-test using the CEL to read the flash patterns in a SN95 or the 3-digit codes pattern. If you watch, you'll see the following codes show up:
116 (OD codes first pass) - delay - 116 (OD codes second pass)
After those 2 sets, a 6 sec delay then 1 flash (= separator code 10) followed by another 6 second delay. Then the two passes corresponding to the CM codes:
181 - 189 - 211 - 212 - 543 - 556 - delay - 181 - 189 - 211 - 212 - 543 - 556
http://www.youtube.com/v/9kJr39MP73Y&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01
Codes Itemization:
OD or "O" Codes:
This codes are the first set of codes flashed during the KOEO self-test. They are the codes displayed previous to the "10" separator code.
CM or "M":
These codes are the ones flashed after the "10 Separator" during the KOEO self-test. These are codes the system logged during the previous 40 ignition cycles and were stored in memory.
R Codes:
These codes are flashed after the Engine ID code (2 = 4 Cyl., 3 = 6 Cyl. and 4 = 8 Cyl.) in the KOER self-test.
It is important the the codes get itemized to determine if they're "hard failures", intermittent or logged by operator error (operating the car with a sensor disconnected), since their definition may vary depending on the type of code. OK, let's run the self-tests.
Running a KOEO self-test:
1. Setup the VIP/DLC connector jumper as described above.
2. Turn Ignition On.
3. Count the flashing/needle-sweep pattern.
4. Write down the codes logged.
5. Start a topic with your problem in the Electronic Engine Management section.
Running a KOER self-test:
1. Setup the VIP/DLC connector jumper as described above.
2. Start the engine...make sure the gas pedal is not touched.
3. Watch for the Engine ID code to be flashed.
4. A this time the engine will increase idle speed, activate system actuators, check sensor inputs, idle will fluctuate, etc. The KOER routine usually takes 2-3 minutes to run, at the end of which the idle speed stabilizes and codes will start to flash.
5. Start counting the codes pattern.
6. Write down the codes logged.
7. Start a topic with your problem in the Electronic Engine Management section
Running a Cylinder Balance self-test:
The cylinder balance test checks that all cylinders are producing the same amount of power. To do so the system will turn off each cyl. injector, record rpm loss and compare it to the other cylinders. This test can be done three times in a row, each time it is repeated after the first one, the rpm difference value to ID a passing/failing cylinder will be lower (stricter).
If a cylinder is shown as weak in the third test (provided you run it a third time), it should be considered
non-contributing
. The tests may be repeated as often as needed if the throttle is depressed within two minutes of the last code output. Subsequent tests, after the 3rd. cycle, will use the percentage from the third test instead of selecting even lower values.
1. Run a KOER self-test as described above and wait until all codes are flashed, DO NOT TURN ENGINE OFF.
2. Within 2 minutes of the last code output, do a brief WOT.
3. Engine rpms should raise and the test initiated.
4. The elapse time of this test is 2-4 minutes after which time....the codes will be output.
5. Write down the codes logged. (90 = PASS, 10 = Cyl. #1 Fail, 20 = Cyl. #2 Fail.......)
6. If a code 90 (System Pass) was obtained, repeat 1-5 for a 2nd. run and goto 7.
7. Start a topic with your problem in the Electronic Engine Management section.
Check for the codes definitions/code type at
http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,849.0.html
.
Clearing EEC-IV Codes:
1. Disconnect battery (-) terminal for 3-5 minutes.
2. The above will cause a code 15 (Keep Alive Memory (KAM) Test Failed) to be logged since power was removed from the system memory.
3. To clear this code (or any other codes) you could also use the alternate/quick procedure.
Alternate Procedure to Clear Codes:
1. Setup the system to run a KOEO self-test.
2. Turn Ignition On.
3. As soon as the codes start to flash, disconnect the STI jumper wire.
4. Turn Ignition Off, set the system to run a KOEO self-test again, and confirm code 15 is cleared from memory (CM codes).
KOEO/KOER Wiggle (Continuous) Tests:
This article was made with the contributions and material provided/available by/at:
TENGRAM
www.veryuseful.com
www.fordfuelinjection.com
www.my5oh.com
Neomustangs
stang562
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Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open. (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
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Failure Codes that will cause CEL to be on
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Every now and then I read or hear customers saying..."there are no failure codes, since the CEL isn't turning on while driving, there shouldn't be any codes".......although that observation is true for most OBD-II systems, it's not TRUE for EEC-IV or Ford's OBD-I systems. This means that the possibility of having a failure code present causing driveability problems w/out having the CEL indicator at the instrument panel on, is not only true, but common. This is one of the reasons why the only reliable way to check EEC-IV systems is by running the system self-test routines described in the previous post.
....the following failures or codes are the only ones that would trigger the CEL/MIL to turn on
for the time the failure condition is present
, once the failure is not present, the CEL will turn off:
CIRCUIT
CODES
ACT
54, 64
ECT
51, 61
BP/MAP
22
MAF
26, 56, 66
TPS
23, 53, 63
EVP
31, 32, 34, 35
HEGO
(1)
41, 91, 42, 92
(1)
Based on a "lean-rich" switching counter timer function.
Intermittent codes will only trigger the CEL during the time the failure condition is present. Any other circuit failures may be present, affecting driveability and/or performance, but not cause the CEL to turn on....and can only be identified/retrieved via the self-test routines. Another case are the failures that are not logged in memory, but are present during engine operation.....any failure code that doesn't have a
"M" = memory, continuous
notation, but any of the others, falls under that category....as you can check at
http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,849.0.html
.
What happens when the CEL is on?.....
....the EEC-IV uses a variant of a Failure Modes Effect Management (FMEM) strategy to compensate for the failures...or as described by Ford.....
Quote
The Failure Mode (FMEM) strategy protects vehicle function from adverse effects of an EEC component failure. The strategy recognizes open or short circuit failure for six sensors: MAF, TP, ECT, ACT EVP/EPT, and BP. In general, if the continuous Self-Test strategy recognizes a failure the FMEM strategy will execute an alternative vehicle strategy. The alternative strategy disables logic which relies on realistic sensor values. Some sensor FMEM strategies also substitute a "safe" value for the bad sensor.
What are those strategies?.....check the table below, look at the column of the failing sensor, and check the alternative actions it does....
Bottom line.....
Just because you don't see the CEL turning on, you may have circuit failures that affect EEC-IV functionality and performance, run the damn self-tests
....it will provide you with the information you need to correct any problems w/out having to replace unnecessary components, and throw away hard earned
.
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Quote from: Joel5.0
The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open. (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.
(Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
Nothing sways the stupid more than arguments they can't understand
- Cardinal de Retz
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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I am really glad somone put together such a comprehensive guide to doing non-OBD-II EEC diagnostics. I get tired of telling people they only need a jumper wire and $2 test light, NOT a $70 codescanner.
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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December 14, 2009, 09:47:35 pm »
Yes I know this is an old topic. And yes I have some questions. I notice at the top of the page are a couple pics showing 94-95 Mustang DLC connectors and locations. I have also taken note that in wiring diagrams/ pics showing wire harness, and device locations, seem to agree that there should be a DLC connector under the hood, near the pass side strut tower, rear face. I recently aquired a 95 Mustang, base coupe, 3.8 V6, build date 8/94. It has no DLC (OBD I) connector to be found in locations provided, but has a standard 16 pin OBD II type connector under the dash. There are no stickers under the hood stating OBD II compliance. I can plug in my OBD II code reader into the port under the dash, but I am trying to determine where this car falls, as in OBD I, or OBD II. I have not seen any codes on my reader, but it seems to link up correctly, and indicates no codes, and "Pass" comes up on the screen. The car still has a slight miss, after new plugs, wires, and a new ignition coil. I am unable to drive the car with no plates, and it needs to be inspected prior to getting plates on it. How do I determine which system is in this car? OBD I or OBD II? I would really like to be able to run the cylinder balance test.
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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3.8L engine = EEC-V = OBD-II....... you need to perform a drive cycle in order to ID if there are any misfire codes.
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Quote from: Joel5.0
The right to be stupid is inalienable for sure however, there is no such thing as a right to impose stupidity onto others
Great Thoughts will Overwhelm a Feeble Mind
There is never money to do it right, but there's always money to do it over.
Knowledge based on external evidence is unreliable.
He, who doesn't ask, does not deserve an answer.
A mind is like a parachute it only works when it is open. (oldmanjoe)
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Tuning on a Dyno for the track, is like swim practice in a bathtub.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. (90lxcoupe)
The proof of understanding is the ability to explain it. (H. Torruella)
Ignorance is bliss, but stupidity is orgasmic.
Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.
(Samuel Johnson)
The chaotic resistance of the opponents leads to the conclusion that they are not prepared to meet the challenge. The problem is already much more psychological then technological. [Bojidar Djordjev]
Individuals are rational and humane... Crowds are reactionary and barbaric. (Jason)
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. –Chinese Proverb
Nothing sways the stupid more than arguments they can't understand
- Cardinal de Retz
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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Thanks for the reply. I have been looking at a lot of posts on this forum, and found a lot of very usefull info.
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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I needed something I could print out and hold while I do the tests so I put Joel's first post in a PDF file. Attached below.
Thanks a ton Joel.
DIY KOEO_KOER_CylinderBalance.pdf
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Re: DIY KOEO/KOER/Cylinder Balance Self-Test Procedure
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Joel5.0...nice post! thank you!
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