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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2009, 10:59:33 pm »

I aint got no issues with you just relax, Im laid back, call me a liar and I will get the thread locked.
I was wondering is the mercury Montego frame or unit body? Im thinking frame.
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My Merc is OEM frame.  I have welded up sub-frame connectors and I have also welded at key points bars of steel to further strengthen the frame.  Here is a photo of my hood -- it's heavy compared to fiberglass but works for now.  Hopefully in the bottom photo you can kinda see the raised hood from the windshield side?  That raised OEM hood and self-made thin-steel hood scoop REALLY help on those hot and cold days.  On the hot days it especially helps rid the compartment of the hot air and on the cold days it helps usher in good and cold air for badass acceleration due to the increased helpings of oxygen!



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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2009, 11:04:30 pm »

time to put the steelie wheels in the attic, lighten up the load, that is a oem hood with a scoop or all oem?
did those cars come with 429/460 or 390/428? If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2009, 11:39:59 pm »

time to put the steelie wheels in the attic, lighten up the load, that is a oem hood with a scoop or all oem?
did those cars come with 429/460 or 390/428? If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?
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Holy shit that's fucking funny as hell!

On a more serious side...  I've had my ass handed to me by some super ugly, friggin cars.
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... it was REALLY revving at like 4K...
If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?

When I say "junk" I'm talking about parts or setup in general...  not say POS.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2009, 12:29:44 am »

now that I look I see that your front bumper looks the same as mine, probably is, ugly thing
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2009, 11:31:49 am »

time to put the steelie wheels in the attic, lighten up the load, that is a oem hood with a scoop or all oem?
did those cars come with 429/460 or 390/428? If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?
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Holy shit that's fucking funny as hell!

On a more serious side...  I've had my ass handed to me by some super ugly, friggin cars.

Ugly?  Easy now -- that's my baby and it's got lots of unique character!  When I drop that built 445" stroker in it you won't have any time to "pull over to let me pass" because I'll have already blown past you when you figure out what the hell was that loud noise behind you . . .   
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2009, 11:46:26 am »

time to put the steelie wheels in the attic, lighten up the load, that is a oem hood with a scoop or all oem?
did those cars come with 429/460 or 390/428? If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?
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Holy shit that's fucking funny as hell!

On a more serious side...  I've had my ass handed to me by some super ugly, friggin cars.

Ugly?  Easy now -- that's my baby and it's got lots of unique character!  When I drop that built 445" stroker in it you won't have any time to "pull over to let me pass" because I'll have already blown past you when you figure out what the hell was that loud noise behind you . . .  
I have a keen sense keeping noisy things behind me, I have a 433 in the works also so we may be 2 MO FO ugly cars scaring paint off the street.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 02:55:56 am »

Uhhhh. I hate to drag an old thread back on topic, but hey, gotta do it. I'm hearing some stuff about cutting boards and i'm curious. Could I make a laminate Q-jet adapter with those plastic cutting boards by gluing 3 or 4 together then carving the appropriate holes? If so, what kind of adhesive? If not cutting boards, what else might work for a good cheap insulating adapter? Thanks.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 08:33:40 am »

corian works good but it can break. I have fabbed spacers out of corian before(custom application where I couldnt buy what I wanted)

I'v run wood spacers on several motors. I dont see a problem? 
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2010, 10:16:24 am »

Yeah I have heard of many running wood too. But hit up the dollar store and just grab one cutting board. In my opinion you should stack however many you want together and counter sink 4 bolts and nuts to hold them all together tight. Then you can machine them all out as one piece. Then when you get the shape close you can take them apart and add gaskets and reassemble for blending.

Now that I think about it, Im not sure you'd need gaskets at all. Or maybe just a tiny bit of RTV.  Wonder, Ponder

Anyway I have worked with that material a lot (like just last night) and I always assemble the pieces so you can get them all perfect together. Then once its done  you can leave them bolted together if you want so you have a one piece unit.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 11:01:51 am »

I use gaskets Dustin...  then you add or delete for tuning.
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If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?

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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 11:14:31 am »

What do you guys use to carve out the spacers?  I'm envisioning making the rough openings with a drill/saber saw routine and bringing it up to size with a sanding drum chucked in a die grinder.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 11:22:33 am »

Your imagination is free to let loose here.

I've used Hole Saws, 14" wheel sander, saber saw, rotary cutter, wood file.
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If I saw that thing in my rear view Im pulling over to let you by, I be scared of that thing Huh? i dont know wich car is uglier ur or mine?

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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2010, 11:32:47 am »

i feel very comfortable with a router, whether free hand or in a table.     after one is made , a pattern bitt makes quick work of the rest.      joe
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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2010, 01:25:40 pm »

i feel very comfortable with a router, whether free hand or in a table.     after one is made , a pattern bitt makes quick work of the rest.      joe
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Thats my take on it too. In my experience the nylon type cutting board material CUTS awesome but doesn't like sandpaper near as much. It will still work and I still do it but I say to cut with a router as much as you can to minimize sanding. I have found a file works pretty good on the stuff too for cleaning up the edges. (think CUT not SAND)

This is funny this came up today, I just made a heater hose clamp out of nylon last night 
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2010, 02:07:41 pm »



This is funny this came up today, I just made a heater hose clamp out of nylon last night 


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