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jayh
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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August 29, 2010, 12:13:55 am »
Quote from: gtvert90 on August 29, 2010, 12:08:51 am
Quote from: jayh on August 28, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
it doesnt have to be dual, 3 1/2" single is the same as 2 1/2" dual; 4" single is the same as 3" dual
there is a chart somewhere, but I dont have it offhand
this makes no sense to me me. Maybe I'm missing something?
one BIG pipe can flow the same as two small pipes. pretty simple
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #31 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:04:11 am »
Quote from: jayh on August 29, 2010, 12:13:55 am
Quote from: gtvert90 on August 29, 2010, 12:08:51 am
Quote from: jayh on August 28, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
it doesnt have to be dual, 3 1/2" single is the same as 2 1/2" dual; 4" single is the same as 3" dual
there is a chart somewhere, but I dont have it offhand
this makes no sense to me me. Maybe I'm missing something?
one BIG pipe can flow the same as two small pipes. pretty simple
3.5" single is less area than two 2.5"s?
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351 windsor snake
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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August 29, 2010, 01:05:23 am »
" one BIG pipe can flow the same as two small pipes. pretty simple"
Um no, area of a circle is Pi x(r x r)
3.142 x2x2=
12.568
(4" single)
3.142 x1.5x1.5= 7.069 x2 =
14.139
(3 1/2 x 2)
3.142 x 1.75x1.75=
9.622
(3 1/2 single)
3.142 x 1.25x1.25=4.909 x2 =
9.81
(2 1/2 x2)
While they are close with the smaller size,you can see they get further apart as they get bigger in diameter.
This is why they use 2 smaller exhaust valves and 2 smaller inlet vales in a four valve head to get more in with less room
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gtvert90
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #33 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:05:46 am »
Quote from: Goody_Seven on August 29, 2010, 01:04:11 am
Quote from: jayh on August 29, 2010, 12:13:55 am
Quote from: gtvert90 on August 29, 2010, 12:08:51 am
Quote from: jayh on August 28, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
it doesnt have to be dual, 3 1/2" single is the same as 2 1/2" dual; 4" single is the same as 3" dual
there is a chart somewhere, but I dont have it offhand
this makes no sense to me me. Maybe I'm missing something?
one BIG pipe can flow the same as two small pipes. pretty simple
3.5" single is less area than two 2.5"s?
That's what I'm thinking.
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Quote from: DeepRoots on June 18, 2010, 11:17:59 am
I was a little hesitant to look at pictures of "your junk"
gtvert90
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #34 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:08:20 am »
Quote from: 351 windsor snake on August 29, 2010, 01:05:23 am
" one BIG pipe can flow the same as two small pipes. pretty simple"
Um no, area of a circle is Pi x(r x r)
3.142 x2x2=
12.568
(4" single)
3.142 x1.5x1.5= 7.069 x2 =
14.139
(3 1/2 x 2)
3.142 x 1.75x1.75=
9.622
(3 1/2 single)
3.142 x 1.25x1.25=4.909 x2 =
9.81
(2 1/2 x2)
While they are close with the smaller size,you can see they get further apart as they get bigger in diameter.
This is why they use 2 smaller exhaust valves and 2 smaller inlet vales in a four valve head to get more in with less room
The smaller sizes are closer then I thought. But still they aren't the same..
And you have to think of the exhaust pulses firing down the same pipe vs two
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Phil.
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Quote from: amustangrocks;1664912
welcome the the best of the mustang forums
Quote from: DeepRoots on June 18, 2010, 11:17:59 am
I was a little hesitant to look at pictures of "your junk"
jayh
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #35 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:12:10 am »
break it down into centimeters and its a little more accurate
NO they are not identical; my point was if its easier to route a single exhaust due to transfer case, fuel tank etc., its ok as long as the diameter is there to support the volume
for example, he has 2 1/2" single now, anyone care to argue a 3 1/2" single wouldnt flow more?
its close...
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gtvert90
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #36 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:20:35 am »
Quote from: jayh on August 29, 2010, 01:12:10 am
NO they are not identical; my point was if its easier to route a single exhaust due to transfer case, fuel tank etc., its ok as long as the diameter is there to support the volume
Quote from: jayh on August 28, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
it doesnt have to be dual, 3 1/2" single is the same as 2 1/2" dual; 4" single is the same as 3" dual
I'm sure its easier. But to say 1 3.5" is the same as 2 2.5" is flat wrong. Saying 1 4" is the same as 2 3" is once again wrong. Plus im still wondering what role the exhaust pulses play in it or if its null by then.
Quote from: jayh on August 29, 2010, 01:12:10 am
for example, he has 2 1/2" single now, anyone care to argue a 3 1/2" single wouldnt flow more?
its close...
That's not what anyone was arguing about. We all you know you love to argue thought
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Phil.
In reference to allfordmustangs
Quote from: amustangrocks;1664912
welcome the the best of the mustang forums
Quote from: DeepRoots on June 18, 2010, 11:17:59 am
I was a little hesitant to look at pictures of "your junk"
jayh
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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Reply #37 on:
August 29, 2010, 01:25:15 am »
my apologies, I should have said- "close to" or "in the ballpark"
I should have said "debate" not "argue"
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Re: Add 50-100 HP to Explorer 5.0 Motor
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September 02, 2010, 11:41:41 pm »
sounds like what Iam fixin to do. I got a 74 bronco,c-4 duels intoglasspac's.95 5.0 HO,stock mustang headers, into 3:50 s I know the lift and larger tires stock 225 hp. she could use alot more another 100 hp,so my plan is 350 hp tf 170 w/2" valves comp recommeded x e258hr @533/544 Iam not sure about the 1.6 rollers ,but yea, or 331 bottom I do not want to cut up my stock hood. the 95/system puts the tb on the pass side away from the brake system. m/m said somthing about a converter??? But still absorbing options, and the ecu is in the glove box covered with a diamond plate dash. needs to match run with 5.0/ho ecu. 306 tf 170 heads stock ho intake 24lb injectors/newtb/mass ??? is 350hp/ 325flbs of torque there/???
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